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Old 05-23-2009, 07:05 AM     Post subject: Couple of riv decisions 200nl. #1 (permalink)  
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Hand 1:

Vill is thee mega fish playing 60/20/2... hes a Passive station. Um lol, i expected to be called on the riv by 9x Qx even sometimes random 8's on this riv, didn't expect the ole min riv c/r.

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Stacks:
UTG ($206.35)
Hero (CO) ($225.70)
BTN ($225.45)
SB ($290.10)
BB ($207.30)

Pre-flop: ($3, 5 players) Hero is CO
1 fold, Hero raises to $6, 1 fold, SB calls $5, 1 fold

Flop: ($14, 2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $10, SB calls $10

Turn: ($34, 2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $24, SB calls $24

River: ($82, 2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $48, SB raises to $96, Hero ..


Hand 2:

Um..vill is running 20/14/3 ish. My image on this table is pretty bad, i'd been caught bluffing by another dude earlier for a stack.
I'm playing around 33/22/4 ...I dont think i've not raised a hand when it was folded to me in SB yet. EZ Foldage? And does my turn betsizing suck?

Oh yeah, a few orbits ago i raised KK otb and Vill 3bet 77 from SB and shipped it pre, if thats at all relevant.

$1/$2 No Limit Holdem
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Stacks:
UTG ($390.10)
CO ($286.55)
BTN ($124.80)
Hero (SB) ($454.05)
BB ($200.00)

Pre-flop: ($3, 5 players) Hero is SB
3 folds, Hero raises to $8, BB calls $6

Flop: ($16, 2 players)
Hero bets $12, BB calls $12

Turn: ($40, 2 players)
Hero bets $28, BB calls $28

River: ($96, 2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $46, Hero..
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Old 05-23-2009, 07:19 AM #2 (permalink)  
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Old 05-23-2009, 07:46 AM #3 (permalink)  
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Old 05-23-2009, 07:48 AM #4 (permalink)  
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How'd it go? I had a pretty gay hand my first 400nl 6m hand.. Flopped straight < rivered fullhouse.. But was against 50bb shorty so lol.
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Old 05-23-2009, 08:36 AM #5 (permalink)  
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yeah it was okay..pretty fun i guess. There were a few over aggro dudes that put some intense pressure on me...but the session was ok. +1 bi~. I think/feel its pretty beatable though.

any comments on the hands? lol.
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Old 05-23-2009, 12:27 PM #6 (permalink)  
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 Hand 1 - Why such small river bet sizing vs a whale? Def bet bigger, probably around 65-70ish. As played, I probably call this vs a donk.
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Old 05-23-2009, 01:10 PM #7 (permalink)  
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I would probably call 1 because the times he has 78 or worse will probably be close to our odds.

Likewise hand 2, I think the times he has busted FD here should get us the odds we need, even on such a crappy board.


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Old 05-23-2009, 04:08 PM #8 (permalink)  
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 Hand #1: It depends how passive he is. But if he never EVER raises I actually want to fold.

Hand #2: I c/f the turn. Why are you betting it?


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Old 05-23-2009, 04:32 PM #9 (permalink)  
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hand 1: def bet way more on river vs whale, then as played I probs call as he can be doing this with 78/79, though I'm not ectatic, I fold aa in this spot.


hand 2: Betting the turn is ooook, c/f the turn is def weak sauce. Your turn bet size seems fine, I'd bet $30 but meh. On river I probably call due to the large amount of overs with missed f draws he has in his range.
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Old 05-23-2009, 04:52 PM #10 (permalink)  
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Call the first one, fold the second one. In the first one, he probably has QK or QA.
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Old 05-23-2009, 10:07 PM #11 (permalink)  
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c/f the turn is def weak sauce.
What's wrong with being weaksauce from time to time when his calling range crushes you? Why are you betting the turn? Is it value? Or is it a bluff? 8's are garbage on this board imo.


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hand 1 I snap fold because he's a PASSIVE station
expect the nuts
hand 2
his range from the BB should be like any ace, any two cards above a 9, any pair, Kxs, Q7s+, J7s+, T7s+, 75s+, 65s+
we can probably rule out Ahxd, flopped flushes, flopped sets because those hands are likely to raise before the river (although he could keep on slowplaying the nut flush)

so here's my range:
so I'm mostly giving him random shit like 4x and some bluffs but I can't weigh ranges that well in pokerstove (unless I tell it to include ATo but not A9o because I expect him to check back giving up on the river half of the time...)
Board: 3h 4h 2h 6c 7c

Hand 0: 56.329% { 99-55, AhTh, Ah9h, Ah8h, A7s-A5s, Ah4h, Ah3h, Ah2h, Kc5c, Kd5d, Ks5s, 8c6c, 8d6d, 8s6s, 7c6c, 7d6d, 7s6s, 7c5c, 7d5d, 7s5s, 6c5c, 6d5d, 6s5s, AcJh, AdJh, AsJh, AcTh, AdTh, AsTh, Ac9h, Ad9h, As9h, Ac8h, Ad8h, As8h, Ac7h, Ad7h, As7h, Ac6d, Ac6h, Ac6s, Ad6c, Ad6h, Ad6s, As6c, As6d, As6h, Ac5d, Ac5h, Ac5s, Ad5c, Ad5h, Ad5s, As5c, As5d, As5h, A4o }
Hand 1: 43.671% { 8c8h }

this is not your real equity, but basically we're ahead of like half of the hands he shows up with
if he checks back all of his hands we beat we obviously suck for equity, but if he bets some of his hands too thinly on the river we should call
so probably call 2/3 of the time, fold 1/3
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c/f the turn is def weak sauce.
What's wrong with being weaksauce from time to time when his calling range crushes you? Why are you betting the turn? Is it value? Or is it a bluff? 8's are garbage on this board imo.


Hmm, I guess i thought that, because of my image his calling range would be alot wider. When i think about it properly though..its really difficult for him to call with a worse hand on this particular board, i don't even think he's calling a turn bet with a Bare flush draw alot of the time as he probably raises flop alot.
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c/f the turn is def weak sauce.
What's wrong with being weaksauce from time to time when his calling range crushes you? Why are you betting the turn? Is it value? Or is it a bluff? 8's are garbage on this board imo.


Hmm, I guess i thought that, because of my image his calling range would be alot wider. When i think about it properly though..its really difficult for him to call with a worse hand on this particular board, i don't even think he's calling a turn bet with a Bare flush draw alot of the time as he probably raises flop alot.
but I think he might be very tempted to call with AcTh since he has both a straight draw, a flush draw and two overcards that are sometimes outs
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c/f the turn is def weak sauce.
What's wrong with being weaksauce from time to time when his calling range crushes you? Why are you betting the turn? Is it value? Or is it a bluff? 8's are garbage on this board imo.


Hmm, I guess i thought that, because of my image his calling range would be alot wider. When i think about it properly though..its really difficult for him to call with a worse hand on this particular board, i don't even think he's calling a turn bet with a Bare flush draw alot of the time as he probably raises flop alot.
but I think he might be very tempted to call with AcTh since he has both a straight draw, a flush draw and two overcards that are sometimes outs
The mega fish is in the first hand.


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Old 05-24-2009, 02:14 PM #16 (permalink)  
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Vs passives I'd sigh fold hand 1
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c/f the turn is def weak sauce.
What's wrong with being weaksauce from time to time when his calling range crushes you? Why are you betting the turn? Is it value? Or is it a bluff? 8's are garbage on this board imo.


Hmm, I guess i thought that, because of my image his calling range would be alot wider. When i think about it properly though..its really difficult for him to call with a worse hand on this particular board, i don't even think he's calling a turn bet with a Bare flush draw alot of the time as he probably raises flop alot.
but I think he might be very tempted to call with AcTh since he has both a straight draw, a flush draw and two overcards that are sometimes outs

Why would he call 2 barrels with the T high flush draw? That seems really far fetched imo.
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