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12-23-2009, 10:31 AM Post subject: Couple of deep spots

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Sanity check please.

#1 BTN is a regular TAG whilst the CO is a drooler, he has been limp calling a load and has been isolated by the BTN or me basically every hand. He has a habit of donk leading weakish draws heads up, otherwise he´s passive, usually c/c´ing most of his range until the riv.
$0.25/$0.50 Ante $0.10 No Limit Holdem
5 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG ($41.90)
CO ($214.35)
BTN ($60.95)
Hero ($109)
BB ($62.45)

Pre-Flop: ($1.25, 5 players) Hero is SB

1 fold, CO calls $0.50, BTN raises to $2.50, Hero calls $2.25, 1 fold, CO calls $2

Flop:

($8.50, 3 players)
Hero checks, CO checks, BTN checks

Turn:

($8.50, 3 players)
Hero bets $6.50, CO calls $6.50, BTN folds

River:

($21.50, 2 players)
Hero bets $18, CO raises to $79.50, Hero goes all-in $99.90, CO calls $20.40

#2 The villain here is more of an aggressive but bad player. He has been 3betting all over the place and didnt fold once to a 3bet himself. Postflop he likes to peel a lot, I dont think he folds bottom pair to one bet much. He also has turned a weak made hand into a bluff more than once, ie flatting two streets with a second or third pair and then mash the bet button when the river checks to him.
$0.25/$0.50 Ante $0.10 No Limit Holdem
5 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG ($51.15)
CO ($113.80)
BTN ($133.05)
SB ($143.80)
Hero ($101.10)

Pre-Flop: ($1.25, 5 players) Hero is BB

1 fold, CO raises to $2.25, BTN calls $2.25, 1 fold, Hero raises to $8, CO calls $5.75, BTN folds

Flop:

($19, 2 players)
Hero bets $11.50, CO calls $11.50

Turn:

($42, 2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $21, Hero goes all-in $81.50, CO calls $60.50

#3 Villians numbers read 48/25 over a sample of 80ish hands, he´s mashing his button whenever he gets a chance. He has been 3betting me a whole lot and been calling raises a bunch, I have been rather tight.
$0.25/$0.50 Ante $0.10 No Limit Holdem
5 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG ($26.30)
Hero ($115.30)
BTN ($169.55)
SB ($139.55)
BB ($69.35)

Pre-Flop: ($1.25, 5 players) Hero is CO

1 fold, Hero raises to $1.50, BTN raises to $5.75, 2 folds, Hero raises to $15.50, BTN calls $9.75

Flop:

($32.25, 2 players)
Hero bets $25, BTN calls $25

Turn:

($82.25, 2 players)
Hero bets $74.70, BTN calls $74.70

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Ravageur

12-23-2009, 10:43 AM

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Against anyone half decent hand 1 is a fold, but vs a fish I guess he can be value owning himself. I would probably just call and save myself the 20$ though. Curious what other ppl think about that.

Hand 2 I like betting the turn here to avoid having him check back a bunch of made hands. As played this is fine though and i like the turn shove.

Hand 3 Preflop I would 4-bet to whatever amount you think villain is calling and not to some 'standard' amount. If you think that's 25$ then make it 25. Either than that this is standard.

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12-23-2009, 11:12 AM

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hand 1: I like - CO drooler has so many badly slow played A-x hands its fine AFAIC . Unlucky if he had A-7 (or even more ul if he had 4-4/7-7)

Ravageur - do really fold here ever? what hand would a decent player have here? 4-4? and wouldn't we just ship and its a cooler?

Hand 2. I like it.

Hand 3. Looks good again.

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12-23-2009, 04:14 PM

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wilbur - sure villain is a fish, but he's a passive fish (as described). Using the reasoning 'oh it's a cooler if i lose' is generally a bad excuse. His river raise is also pretty damn big which for fish is generally a sign of the strength of their hand. From his perspective we should have a hand here, we bet almost full pot etc..

With all that said it's still hard to fold a boat to a fish but this seems like one of those spots.

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12-23-2009, 05:03 PM

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hand 1 can be an easy fold against a good villain you have reads on but I neverrrr toss this verse fish, and prolly take the extra 20 on top of it...

I bet out turn in hand 2 but only your reads can say how sure you are he bets this card

hand 3.. nh.. works for me

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12-23-2009, 07:50 PM

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Hand 1
Im not a big fan of flatting out of the SB with 22-66 even given the fish in the hand. But as played I don't see much reason not to bet flop?

Hand 2
I like your read/analysis of Vil. I think its played fine.

Hand 3
I think Im pretty much playing the same way as well.

Over all looks ok to me.

gabe

12-23-2009, 11:39 PM

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i always lead the flop in hand 1. also i dont think u should 3bet the river

the other 2 are fine

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12-23-2009, 11:42 PM

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1) I don't think you can fold vs a fish especially when you know he slow plays hands to the river. I would lead the flop though, the tagg is never gonna cbet as frequently and there's plenty of value from the fish.

2) I would make it bigger pre 9 or 10 works since he's never folding to 9 more often than 8.

3) I would also make the 4 bet bigger pre since you are more than 200bb deep. As played I have no problem with it.

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12-24-2009, 02:28 AM

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I wouldn't raise less than 4x in an ante game. - especially when you're deep and not on the btn.
Same reason why I don't minraise in normal games.

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