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dsaxton
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06-12-2006, 01:45 AM
Post subject: Counterfeited.
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4-of-a-Kind
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Opponent is a little loose-passive and not very good overall. River play?
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $4 BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)
saw flop|saw showdown
SB ($163)
BB ($400)
UTG ($304.85)
Hero ($394)
Button ($372.60)
Preflop: Hero is MP with 6 , 7.
UTG raises to $12, Hero calls $12, Button calls $12, SB calls $10, 1 fold.
Flop: ($52) 8, 5 , 6 (4 players)
SB checks, UTG bets $32, Hero calls $32, Button folds, SB folds.
Turn: ($116) 7 (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $80, UTG calls $80.
River: ($276) 8 (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero ???
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aislephive
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Check.
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Miffed22001
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by aislephive
Check.
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and cry
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dsaxton
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Originally Posted by aislephive
Check.
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Reasoning? His most likely hand is an overpair.
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CavemanWins
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I would not bet; A similar situation just came up for me earlier today. My reasoning: If he only has overcards, I take down the pot. If I bet, and he only has overdards, he will fold. If I bet, and he happens to have the flush or straight, he will call or raise.
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aislephive
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Didn't see the action properly .. this does look like a push though.
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jackvance
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Without a further read to tell me otherwise, I wouldn't reopen the betting here and check behind. Or do you think he'll call a push with high pocket?..
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Lukie
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oh wow, what a terrible spot. Our hand has virtually no showdown value here.
Give ourself a few dollars in random donk pot equity, make our best estimate of our folding equity here based on what we think his range might be, and push all-in if it's pretty clear that's a +EV play? Anybody else have a better way of going about this?
fwiw I usually pansy-out and check behind in spots like this. 
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dsaxton
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This guy almost never raises preflop, and in this hand he raised in first position, then made a substantial bet on the flop into several players, so I was fairly confident he had a high pair.
On the turn, he quickly checked, and then quickly called my turn bet, which I thought was a sign of nervousness over the possible straight. Then when the river card came, effectively giving me a worthless hand, he again checked immediately. I realized it was the ultimate scare card for his hand (he could now beat essentially nothing, a flush draw, any 9, any 4, 5-5, 6-6, 7-7, 8-8, 7-8, even A-8), so I went all-in for $270 and he folded.
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mb2447
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by CavemanWins
I would not bet; A similar situation just came up for me earlier today. My reasoning: If he only has overcards, I take down the pot. If I bet, and he only has overdards, he will fold. If I bet, and he happens to have the flush or straight, he will call or raise.
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in other words no better hand folds, no worse hand calls. If villain was TAG then I like a river bet more, as that board threatens his likely holdings (overpair?) something awful. The description of villain is very influential here.
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AWOL.
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