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Old 07-12-2007, 04:01 AM     Post subject: completely confused what to do this river... #1 (permalink)  
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villain is unknown. stats are 16/10/2.2

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Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is UTG with Q Q
Hero raises to $3.5, 2 folds, Button calls, SB calls, BB folds.

Flop: 9 5 3 ($11.5, 3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $9.5, Button calls, SB folds.

Turn: 6 ($30.5, 2 players)
Hero bets $21, Button calls.

River: K ($72.5, 2 players)
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Old 07-12-2007, 04:04 AM #2 (permalink)  
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 Sick river..

What about $28 and fold to a raise?
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Old 07-12-2007, 04:07 AM #3 (permalink)  
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 what's scary about that card? Check to induce and call.
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Old 07-12-2007, 04:29 AM #4 (permalink)  
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what's scary about that card? Check to induce and call.
induce a bluff from a missed flsuh draw, i guess? oh wait...
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Old 07-12-2007, 04:33 AM #5 (permalink)  
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You beat Tens and Jacks...
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Old 07-12-2007, 04:39 AM #6 (permalink)  
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 lol it's late

just pretend I was joking
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River: K ($72.5, 2 players)
Hero checks (i thought about bet/folding, but this time i decided to check and see what happens), Button is all-in $55.4, Hero tanks and thinks for a long time with his gut telling him he still has the best hand but folds.
Uncalled bets: $55.4 returned to Button.

Results:
Final pot: $72.5
Button shows 9s 8s

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couple orbits later, same villain...

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Button: $132.97
SB: $26.22
BB: $99.00

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is UTG with K K
Hero raises to $3.5, UTG+1 calls, CO folds, Button calls, SB folds, BB calls.

Flop: 8 T 9 ($14.5, 4 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $10, UTG+1 folds, Button raises to $30
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You beat Tens and Jacks...
77/44 probably calls the turn too since they have a bunch of outs, maybe even 88
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Old 07-12-2007, 05:22 AM #9 (permalink)  
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Hand 2: I'd just move in.

edit: Sometimes I might fold, just don't tell anyone!
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Old 07-12-2007, 05:34 AM #10 (permalink)  
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 OMG I was right about hand 1. Gabeowned

Seriously though, I don't know what I was thinking. I was like, well he can't have a King if he had the flush draw, obv. I'm stoooopid.
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hand 1 opp plays good

hand 2 id fold flop given 4 people saw it
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Old 07-12-2007, 10:01 AM #12 (permalink)  
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so what did BB do in hand 2??? did he fold??

id probably shove flop in hand 2 but ive been looking at these spots lately so gabe is probably correct. given we have a spade makes me wanna shove
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ugh...i definitely DO NOT want this guy at my table.

he runs nitty 16/10, but he can make moves.

for hand 1, at first i was thinking bet/folding is good. but if he can push for all his stack when i check, he can probably push over a blocking bet.

i made a mental note to myself when he raised the flop in hand 2, that the previous hand was a set up to a real monster, and this could be it. if it's 2 pair, i have a lot of outs, if he's got the flush draw, i'm ahead. damn it all! GA/\/\B00000L!!!!!

Hero pushes, Villian insta-calls and flips QJ for the nut straight.
 
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Old 07-12-2007, 04:21 PM #14 (permalink)  
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You beat Tens and Jacks...
how could villain have tens or jacks?
both hands check river. the only reason tens and jacks would bet is if he knew you had QQ and he knew you would fold.

hand 2 is tough. would this opp raise here with TPTK? or a draw? i think he would with a monster draw, possible but probably unlikely with a flush draw and unlikely with a straight draw. he could have a hand like TJ though.

it's a tough spot. maybe you should just fold since whatever he has you're a coinflip or slightly ahead. and you're behind to a wide part of his range.

i don't blame you for pushing here.
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 hand 1: If a guy is good enough to turn a made hand into a bluff nh, seriously never put anyone on a made hand turned into a bluff 200nl and below. You played this very well.

hand 2: I probably fold because I just never see people raise draws at 50nl unless they're aggro.
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Old 07-12-2007, 05:15 PM #16 (permalink)  
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Hand 2 is an easy fold.
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