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bluey
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05-26-2006, 06:13 AM
Post subject: cold caller leads the flop, QQ
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Flush
Join Date: Dec 2005
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opp is standard tagg. give him credit for KK AA?
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)
CO ($67.82)
Hero ($114.45)
SB ($68.68)
BB ($97)
UTG ($97.19)
MP ($123.95)
Preflop: Hero is Button with Q , Q . SB posts a blind of $0.50.
2 folds, CO raises to $3, Hero raises to $12, 1 fold, BB calls $11, CO calls $9.
Flop: ($36.50) 9, 6, 6 (3 players)
BB bets $20, CO folds, Hero...
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IIbeatsUU: lol u raised with that?
you mini raised, therefore you desereve whatever you get....
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Robert
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I think I call here, because you are in position. Raising his bet would only bloat the pot and probably only get called by hands that beat you (if opp is indeed tag). Its possible opp has TT-JJ here, but then calling is still better because he probably wont fire again on the turn.
I think I fold to a turn bet, but that depends on how much he bets and what kind of card that falls.
btw, thx for the game yesterday bluey. You really need to open up your game, your stats say you are a true nit, you will have a hard time getting paid of when moving up in stakes 
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dsaxton
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Why would you fold queens because he donked out? T-T and J-J are probably his most likely hands. I would just call.
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Rondavu
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So much to be gained on the turn.
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It's not what's inside that counts. Have you seen what's inside?
Internal organs. And they're getting uglier by the minute.
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bluey
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Flush
Join Date: Dec 2005
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Ok sounds good. I call another 6 on the turn. He pushes, I...
robert I only play QQ+. thats funny because on 2+2 yesterday I was called a loose donk running over 50 VPIP. what did you have me running at? im tight but nothing like that bigred character.
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BR: $.1k
Goal 2: July 1 $10k
IIbeatsUU: lol u raised with that?
you mini raised, therefore you desereve whatever you get....
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dalecooper
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You called, third six on the turn, yes? I call the push, seems quite likely he has TT/JJ... at least as likely as that he has AA/KK.
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johnny_fish
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I like a fold. Call KK, fold JJ, QQ is read-dependent. It's a fold vs. a standard Tag.
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dalecooper
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by johnny_fish
I like a fold. Call KK, fold JJ, QQ is read-dependent. It's a fold vs. a standard Tag.
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That's the problem - I question the read. How many standard TAgg's call a raise and re-raise cold in the big blind, knowing they'll be acting first in a probable three-way pot after the flop? And if he did choose to slowplay a big pair a little bit, why then does he come out with the 2/3 pot bet on the flop? It's a pretty strange line for a standard TAgg unless he's tricksier than most of them.
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dsaxton
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This is an instant call on the turn. This play makes zero sense with K-K or A-A. He just calls preflop, donks out, and then pushes all-in with a near lock on the hand? I doubt it. T-T and J-J are much more likely.
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aislephive
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Gahh, tough spot. I think I'd call though on the flop and on the turn when he pushes.
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