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Old 12-10-2006, 01:57 AM     Post subject: Check behind with set - losing value? #1 (permalink)  
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Villain is 50/9. On the flop he hesitated a bit, and on the turn he hesitated a lot and almost timed out. I put him on a weak ace, like AT, or a spade draw.

Am I losing a lost of value by checking this river? I really hated seeing that spade. Is he checking a flush here? Is he calling a push with A9, AT or AJ? I have $23 behind on the river.


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Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is CO with Q Q
UTG folds, UTG+1 raises to $1, Hero raises to $4, 2 folds, BB calls, UTG+1 calls.

Flop: 2 Q A ($12.25, 3 players)
BB checks, UTG+1 checks, Hero bets $8, BB folds, UTG+1 calls.

Turn: 4 ($26.25, 2 players)
UTG+1 checks, Hero bets $18, UTG+1 calls.

River: 7 ($61.25, 2 players)
UTG+1 checks, Hero checks.

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Old 12-10-2006, 03:30 AM #2 (permalink)  
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Yep. You've only got $23 behind this is a good time for a push.


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Old 12-10-2006, 03:48 AM #3 (permalink)  
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yes you are losing lots of monies by checking here

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when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?
 
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if villain has AAA or a flush good for him
when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?
 
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Old 12-10-2006, 04:32 AM #5 (permalink)  
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i always push sets when checked to on river with less than a psb behind unless board is ridiculously scary, i.e. 4 to a flush. Depending on opponent i will often push sets when there are 4 to a straight depending on the action and i have 2/3 pot or less remaining.
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Come on man, push this all day.
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Old 12-10-2006, 10:48 PM #10 (permalink)  
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Your hand is usually good, and he isn't folding, so go all-in.
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Old 12-11-2006, 07:50 PM #11 (permalink)  
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Opponent you described almost always has a weak ace here.


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Any analysis on opponents post flop play? I mean, 50/9 doesn't make him a total donkey, some players can play ranges like that and be successful. Only reason I say that is it'd be unlikely for him to be calling that turn bet if he plays well postflop on a flush draw.

With everyone else, I'd say push the river.
 
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