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02-07-2009, 05:53 PM
Post subject: catching a piece after a light 3bet
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The villian runs 28/23 and folds to 3bets a fair amount. A flop like this usually leaves me wondering, whether or not I want to cbet. Im kinda lost, since I have some SD value and my bet will rarely get called by any worse or fold out stronger holdings. Then again, I figure that most A/K turns and rivers enable me to shove him off 99-JJ. Whats ur line and why?
$0.5/$1 No Limit Holdem
4 players
Converted at weaktight.com
Stacks:
CO ($366.15)
Hero (BTN) ($101.50)
SB ($123.10)
BB ($158.45)
Pre-flop: ($1.50, 4 players) Hero is BTN  
CO raises to $3.50, Hero raises to $12, 2 folds, CO calls $8.50
Flop:    ($25.50, 2 players)
CO checks
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Alexos
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ch is ok
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Schiplt
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i wouldnt be worrying about bluffing him off of some over pair yet. both of your points lead to the same flop line, take your value and check and re-evaluate turn.
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Alexos
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yea also its the kind of flop where u get shipped on a lot and not doin too hot to bet/call. If it's 863r keep in mind our hand is the same pretty much but it's less likely to get shipped on so theres more incentive to bet to protect ur hand.
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nutsinho
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stop reraising so big in position.
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Parasurama
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stop reraising so big in position.
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I reraise to $11 here is that a good number?
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griffey24
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Yah your 3bet is pretty big, I'd just make it 3x IP so if he opens 3.5 I'd make it $10.50.
As played, I'd check this flop back for pot control and to induce bluffs on the turn. Also for the reasons Alexos suggested, that this board is gonna get shipped a lot and we're not too happy b/c here.
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Renton
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see no reason to 3-bet this pre unless the blinds squeeze a lot (don't see much of a problem then either, it would just mean i would be shoving all in with this some  )
flop is a clear check
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zook
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Originally Posted by Renton
see no reason to 3-bet this pre
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Marshall28
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It's really only good to 3bet this if villain is the type of player to be calling your 3bet a lot OOP then c/f a ton of flops, otherwise I agree w/ Renton and zook.
Everything else said by Griffey/Alexos was right on though.
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Parasurama
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Originally Posted by Marshall28
It's really only good to 3bet this if villain is the type of player to be calling your 3bet a lot OOP then c/f a ton of flops, otherwise I agree w/ Renton and zook.
Everything else said by Griffey/Alexos was right on though.
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I thought these were the kind of hands you add first to your 3bet range when you're 3betting light? If not what kind of hands do we want to 3bet?
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zook
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Originally Posted by Parasurama
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Originally Posted by Marshall28
It's really only good to 3bet this if villain is the type of player to be calling your 3bet a lot OOP then c/f a ton of flops, otherwise I agree w/ Renton and zook.
Everything else said by Griffey/Alexos was right on though.
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I thought these were the kind of hands you add first to your 3bet range when you're 3betting light? If not what kind of hands do we want to 3bet? |
I like 3betting sc's oop but ip they have way too much value imo.
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Alexos
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I don't mind the 3bet since its CO vs BTN and its more likely to get squeezed than UTG vs BTN. 78s is probably the tweener hand in that regard, i think that 45s for example doesnt have a lot of value postflop, whereas JTs has a ton of value. Just nitpicking though, I don't think its a huge deal either way. 3bet size is decent I don't think its a leak or anything.
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ATOTHEC101
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Originally Posted by Parasurama
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stop reraising so big in position.
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I reraise to $11 here is that a good number? |
$10's better, I also check this flop alot.
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