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biondino
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12-05-2007, 09:27 PM
Post subject: Can you have a look at some hands plz?
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From tonight's session. I felt I played well - you might disagree.
HAND 1
Rhythman was 37/12, slightly aggressive and probably better than these stats imply - we chatted a bit and he seemed okay.
FullTiltPoker Game #4402772019: Table Rizari (6 max) - $0.25/$0.50 - Pot Limit Hold'em - 16:28:58 ET - 2007/12/05
Seat 1: BURMI ($70.35)
Seat 2: Teeback ($37.55)
Seat 3: SandInMyVagina ($51.80)
Seat 4: Hertramph ($41.40)
Seat 5: Rhythman ($35.25)
Seat 6: cnh320 ($50)
Hertramph posts the small blind of $0.25
Rhythman posts the big blind of $0.50
The button is in seat #3
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to SandInMyVagina [Qd Qh]
cnh320 folds
BURMI folds
Teeback folds
SandInMyVagina raises to $1.75
Hertramph folds
Rhythman calls $1.25
*** FLOP *** [7d 6c 5c]
Rhythman checks
SandInMyVagina bets $3
Rhythman has 15 seconds left to act
Rhythman raises to $7.85
SandInMyVagina has 15 seconds left to act
SandInMyVagina has requested TIME
SandInMyVagina folds
HAND 2
First hand played (maybe 4th in all) on this table, so no reads at all.
FullTiltPoker Game #4402538847: Table Cherokee (6 max) - $0.50/$1 - No Limit Hold'em - 16:04:00 ET - 2007/12/05
Seat 1: b1ack_mamba888 ($99.50)
Seat 2: La_i_a_e ($55.55)
Seat 3: PTP2124 ($49.80)
Seat 4: SandInMyVagina ($101.35)
Seat 5: 28121968 ($35.85)
Seat 6: prettyboy33 ($96.85)
28121968 posts the small blind of $0.50
prettyboy33 posts the big blind of $1
The button is in seat #4
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to SandInMyVagina [Ah Ad]
b1ack_mamba888 folds
La_i_a_e calls $1
PTP2124 calls $1
SandInMyVagina raises to $5.50
28121968 folds
prettyboy33 folds
La_i_a_e calls $4.50
PTP2124 folds
*** FLOP *** [2s 2d 3s]
La_i_a_e bets $5
SandInMyVagina raises to $16
La_i_a_e calls $11
*** TURN *** [2s 2d 3s] [Td]
La_i_a_e has 15 seconds left to act
La_i_a_e bets $34.05, and is all in
SandInMyVagina calls $34.05
HAND 3
Guy is a hyper-lagg - 80/40 or so.
FullTiltPoker Game #4402609624: Table Cherokee (6 max) - $0.50/$1 - No Limit Hold'em - 16:11:40 ET - 2007/12/05
Seat 1: b1ack_mamba888 ($111.50)
Seat 2: La_i_a_e ($132)
Seat 3: PTP2124 ($88.60)
Seat 4: SandInMyVagina ($103.60)
Seat 5: Only A Mirage ($100)
Seat 6: prettyboy33 ($73.65)
b1ack_mamba888 posts the small blind of $0.50
La_i_a_e posts the big blind of $1
The button is in seat #6
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to SandInMyVagina [Ac 6c]
PTP2124 folds
SandInMyVagina raises to $4
prettyboy33 folds
b1ack_mamba888 calls $3.50
La_i_a_e folds
*** FLOP *** [8d 7h 9h]
b1ack_mamba888 has 15 seconds left to act
b1ack_mamba888 bets $6
SandInMyVagina calls $6
*** TURN *** [8d 7h 9h] [Kc]
b1ack_mamba888 checks
SandInMyVagina bets $15
b1ack_mamba888 calls $15
*** RIVER *** [8d 7h 9h Kc] [Ts]
b1ack_mamba888 has 15 seconds left to act
b1ack_mamba888 checks
SandInMyVagina has 15 seconds left to act
SandInMyVagina bets $22
What do you think? Thanks in advance for advice.
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Roel
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hand 1: seems a bit tight, at least call and see what happens on the turn. I'd probably 3bet here myself, but this is certainly a dangerous flop.
hand 2: played ok.
hand 3: against a hyper-lagg river bet has value here, think he calls a lot with 10-x or 2pr. Then again i have seen guys like that chase all the way with Jx, but i guess you'll know soon enough.
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Vi-Zer0Skill
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1). You can't fold an overpair here on the flop. However there are a lot of scary turns that you can fold on if he bets again. If the turn is a blank and villain makes a reasonably sized bet you should go all in.
If he was playing passively over a large sample then i think you could fold to a check/raise.
2). I might raise to 17-18 instead so the turn bet to put villain AI isn't quite so large. Otherwise the hand is played well.
3). I would not float this flop. The flop is likely to have either given him a pair or a better draw than the one you are floating with. Particulary if he is playing aggressively he is going to be betting at a lot of scary turn/rivers that will force you to fold later in the hand. River value bet is good.
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Originally Posted by Carroters
Ambition is fucking great, but you're trying to dig up gold with a rocket launcher and are going to blow the whole lot to shit unless you refine your tools
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EzDuzIt
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hand 1: dont fold
hand 2: fine
hand 3: i dont really like flop. but as played ofcourse value bet river.
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IowaSkinsFan
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All look pretty good.
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Ash256
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1: Every option seems ok here, fold is the safest, certainly.
2: Wheeeeeeee fistpump
3: Nice
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biondino
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The first hand was just feel - a set, two pair and a combo draw are such a big part of his range, bearing in mind a decentish player making such a small re-raise - that I couldn't face stacking off with a pair of queens. And had I called or raised his flop bet, meh. I also think it was weak but every alarm bell imaginable is ringing here.
Hand 2, I never seriously considered folding as the hands he might have that are ahead here are such a small part of his range, assuming he's a regular unknown. Fair?
Hand 3 is probably the most dubious of the 3. I knew at this point he was maniacal pre-flop and very aggro on the flop; I took a risk that he could also fold a poor or whiffed hand to a 3/4 pot turn bet. I don't think I'm wrong... but maybe this wasn't such a great flop to do it on.
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noble007
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I didnt read any of the responses,
hand 1 seems bad vs a weak player, generally they are at least slightly trappy with strong hands and the board is so draw heavy and he only had 70 bb at the start I can get it in comfortably on this draw heavy board and be ahead vs his range.
Hand 2 seems good,
very few players are good enough to lead with a set on a board that most likely missed hero and then when he just calls you have to think his range is mid pair/draw and turn doesnt change that.
I dont see him pushing TT when you will probably bet if checked to.
I call this very easily.
Hand 3
Guy is not hyper lag - guy is hyper donkey
You can check raise him/ get it in with top pair and stack him in no time, no need to bluff at all.
His flop lead is a one pair hand/draw
His turn call looks like he has draw outs, draw hits on river I dont bluff, esp. since he will even call with a bare 9.
Just wait for a better spot.
(Oh wait you have straight oops, my bad, yeah I bet for value but fold to a check raise.)
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Galapogos
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Barring any read on villains post-flop play, I tend call the flop to check out the turn. Fold is safe though. Rest are g00t.
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Originally Posted by sauce123
I don't get why you insist on stacking off with like jack high all the time.
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Ash256
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Originally Posted by biondino
Hand 2, I never seriously considered folding as the hands he might have that are ahead here are such a small part of his range, assuming he's a regular unknown. Fair?
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I only really ever see his line from donks, and it's generally weak-medium hands, I'd say you get shown 66-99 there a lot, hence the fistpump.
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biondino
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Thanks loads for the replies fellas. I am still torn over hand 1 because, based on my experience and instinct at $50NL, this raise shows real strength. Or does it? If he has a set or a straight, shouldn't he be giving me worse odds to chase if *I* have a straight draw or flush draw?
The other two hands: The AA hand lost against Q2s; and the A6s hand won vs T8 making two pair on the river - thankfully he just called my river value bet. In a way this hand played itself as I certainly wasn't investing any more money if I didn't hit, but I had fulfilled my obligation to try and beat off the lagg on the turn. Perhaps I should have chosen a better spot.
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