|
minSim
|
01-06-2009, 09:32 AM
Post subject: C/f flop with underpair on K high board after sqeeuze?
|
#1 (permalink)
|
|
4-of-a-Kind
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Deventer
Posts: 1,512
|
|
This was like my 3rd hand on the table, and I'm 100% sure we have no stats on eachother.
I put results in, because it perfectly resembles my thinking.
I figured AA are in his calling range here, possibly KK and I really have no idea about the rest of his range. A check from my side could very well be any K+ for the c/shove and I'd be cbetting any air hand at least, but I don't know if villain thinks like this.
I expect an underpair to more or less always check behind.
Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $0.50(BB) Replayer Game#23602776949
SB ($42.85)
Hero ($50)
UTG ($60.10)
CO ($43.80)
BTN ($50)
Dealt to Hero Q Q
fold, CO raises to $2.50, call, fold, Hero raises to $11, call, fold,
FLOP ($24.75) K 3 9
check, CO bets $13, Hero folds
|
|
|
Play for FREE and practice your game at...
Join the FTR Poker Forum to disable these banners and start posting!
|
|
bode
|
|
Straight Flush
Join Date: May 2006
Location: slow motion
Posts: 4,270
|
|
cbet the flop.
|
Quote:
|
eeevees are not monies yet...they are like baby monies.
|
|
|
minSim
|
|
4-of-a-Kind
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Deventer
Posts: 1,512
|
|
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by bode
cbet the flop.
|
How much, and what's the turn plan?
|
|
|
|
XTR1000
|
|
4-of-a-Kind
Join Date: May 2006
Location: surfing in a room
Posts: 2,188
|
|
I think QQ is too strong here to just c/f to one bet, Id much rather just lead the flop
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by bigred
xtr stand for exotic tranny retards
|
yo
|
|
jimmy44
|
|
Full House
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Place where I can spew
Posts: 1,391
|
|
I would c-bet to about $15, he would definitively continue with JJ/TT.
If called on the flop, I would c/f turn. In 3bet pots they're not going to float you light most of the time.
|
|
|
|
bode
|
|
Straight Flush
Join Date: May 2006
Location: slow motion
Posts: 4,270
|
|
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by minSim
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by bode
cbet the flop.
|
How much, and what's the turn plan?
|
whatever your standard cbet is. $18ish is good here.
|
Quote:
|
eeevees are not monies yet...they are like baby monies.
|
|
|
Da GOAT
|
|
Straight Flush
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Dublin
Posts: 4,308
|
|
b/f for $15-16 on flop, same prupose as bettign 18 so save 2-3 dollars
|
|
Jman: every time the action is to you, it's an opportunity for you to make the perfect play.
|
|
minSim
|
|
4-of-a-Kind
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Deventer
Posts: 1,512
|
|
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by Da GOAT
b/f for $15-16 on flop, same prupose as bettign 18 so save 2-3 dollars
|
Or win 2-3, which seems our goal.
|
|
|
|
griffey24
|
|
Straight Flush
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Toronto'ish
Posts: 4,611
|
|
Your 3bet size preflop seems a little big to me. $9-10 seems a bit more reasonable.
As played, I'd bet flop.
|
|
|
|
bode
|
|
Straight Flush
Join Date: May 2006
Location: slow motion
Posts: 4,270
|
|
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by Da GOAT
b/f for $15-16 on flop, same prupose as bettign 18 so save 2-3 dollars
|
except we dont make as much when called with lots of potential draws and worse hands peeling one off. betting 3/5th pot on a board like this is gross.
|
Quote:
|
eeevees are not monies yet...they are like baby monies.
|
|
|
Da GOAT
|
|
Straight Flush
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Dublin
Posts: 4,308
|
|
Without reads we shud bet wot I said. Anymore is waste since we aren't going to be betting the turn. we wanna keep pot small oop.plus this size bet shud pretty much be std
|
|
Jman: every time the action is to you, it's an opportunity for you to make the perfect play.
|
|
bode
|
|
Straight Flush
Join Date: May 2006
Location: slow motion
Posts: 4,270
|
|
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by Da GOAT
Without reads we shud bet wot I said. Anymore is waste since we aren't going to be betting the turn. we wanna keep pot small oop.plus this size bet shud pretty much be std
|
i dont know if its a difference in sites or whatever, but that cbet size is definitely not standard in the games i play.
|
Quote:
|
eeevees are not monies yet...they are like baby monies.
|
|
|
Renton
|
|
Straight Flush
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Atlanta, GA, USA
Posts: 5,992
|
|
wow bad,
bet flop, now call
|
|
|
|
minSim
|
|
4-of-a-Kind
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Deventer
Posts: 1,512
|
|
I assume the plan after betting the flop is c/f turn or shove river if turn checks through?
Also, JJ is a c/f? If not, TT?
Should we even be having a c/c range here?
|
|
|