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Old 12-17-2009, 01:04 AM     Post subject: BVB facing strange donkbets 100nl #1 (permalink)  
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Have not many hands on this fellow, and his stats don't really correspond to the style that he plays. I have him at 20/5/2 and 0% 3b. Saw him showdown in a semi weird spot earlier....he raised on the btn with ATo and called a 11bb 3bet from the sb(who had only 50 bbs) fflop came QhTs4h and the bb check/jammed and vill called. So he seems stationy and slightly aggro in weird spots...like this one.
What are our best options on all 3 streets and what range of hands overbet donkbets on this flop? If we call this turn are we commited to calling a riv on a blank. ?


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Pre-Flop: ($1.50, 4 players) Hero is BB
2 folds, FIFO31 calls $0.50, Hero raises to $4, FIFO31 calls $3

Flop: ($8, 2 players)
FIFO31 bets $13, Hero calls $13

Turn: ($34, 2 players)
FIFO31 bets $29, hero.....
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Old 12-17-2009, 01:43 AM #2 (permalink)  
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I'd raise the flop since our equity isn't that great against even his bluffs and get it in if he shoves. As played I'd call turn and call river I think. In my experience, bad players are much more likely to donk air repeatedly (or even A4 on this board) than monsters.
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Old 12-17-2009, 03:51 AM #3 (permalink)  
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Just don't fold but raising flop is probably good
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Old 12-17-2009, 12:24 PM #4 (permalink)  
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 i would find it hard to fold but he's probably got AA or something
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Old 12-17-2009, 01:33 PM #5 (permalink)  
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How low does our flop raising range go?
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Old 12-17-2009, 01:48 PM #6 (permalink)  
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 I wouldn't raise anywhere in this hand. Call turn and probably river as well.
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yeah calling is fine, but i think we have to call pretty much any river.
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Old 12-17-2009, 05:25 PM #8 (permalink)  
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I think calling turn is thin vs most fish without a specific read, and calling a river shove would be super marginal.

but vs some fish i'm just calling this down the entire way, so kinda a feel thing. Definitely no raising anywhere in the hand
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Old 12-17-2009, 05:29 PM #9 (permalink)  
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 How do we interpret a donkbet vs a checkraise and how that narrows his range?
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Old 12-17-2009, 05:45 PM #10 (permalink)  
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there's way more air in a donkbet, a c/r is da nutters or a minumum a 910 or j10 type hand here. we flat because we want his air to continue, and if we raise he probably folds his mid pair that he otherwise would continue firing with or c/c
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Old 12-17-2009, 09:59 PM #11 (permalink)  
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have no idea what inspired the overbet donkbet on the flop with that hand. Anyway...i'm pretty sure i played it ok as the majority seems to think call call call is the best line? gg

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Stacks:
CO Elmo1234 ($104.50)
BTN DrGreve ($109.25)
SB FIFO31 ($177.55)
BB Hero ($100)

Pre-Flop: ($1.50, 4 players) Hero is BB
2 folds, FIFO31 calls $0.50, Hero raises to $4, FIFO31 calls $3

Flop: ($8, 2 players)
FIFO31 bets $13, Hero calls $13

Turn: ($34, 2 players)
FIFO31 bets $29, Hero calls $29

River: ($92, 2 players)
FIFO31 goes all-in $131.55, Hero goes all-in $54

Final Pot: $277.55
Hero shows two pair, Nines and Sevens

FIFO31 shows three of a kind, Sevens
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Old 12-17-2009, 10:38 PM #12 (permalink)  
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I wouldn't raise anywhere in this hand. Call turn and probably river as well.
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I'd be calling the large majority of rivers. Like zook said these players will just donk 55 3 streets and hands of similar value. They will also have air frequently which they will triple.



 
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