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bjsaust
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04-15-2009, 10:33 AM
Post subject: Bottom set on monotone flop with unusual action ahead
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SB is a total unknown, first session with him and only 3rd hand at table. UTG+1 is an unimaginative taggy reg (sort of guy who'll 3-bet me light if he has position but I dont expect to 4-bet me light if I have position on him). He probably views me as annoying and possibly running good v's him (because I get him to fold a fair bit).
$0.25/$0.5 No Limit Holdem
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com
Stacks:
UTG ($90.81)
UTG 1 ($50.55)
CO ($51.84)
Hero (BTN) ($49.25)
SB ($19.73)
BB ($18.75)
Pre-flop: ($0.75, 6 players) Hero is BTN  
1 fold, UTG 1 raises to $1.75, 1 fold, Hero calls $1.75, SB calls $1.50, 1 fold
Flop:    ($5.75, 3 players)
SB bets $5.75, UTG 1 calls $5.75, $5.75 to Hero ($47.50)?
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bode
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am i missing the unusual action? raise to like $20.00 and get that shit in.
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griffey24
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Originally Posted by bode
am i missing the unusual action?
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I guess it's pretty unusual that SB is donk leading full pot into two players on a monotone board where no two pairs are really possible.
In practice I probably raise/get it in, though given SB's sizing I think its at least somewhat close. PFR's flatting range is probably QQd, KKd, AAd, and some flopped flushes. Gotta figure SB's range for leading like this is mostly 666, (maaaybe JJJ?), flopped flushes esp low one's and maybe AdJ, KdJ or something.
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I'd call.
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bode
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Originally Posted by griffey24
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Originally Posted by bode
am i missing the unusual action?
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I guess it's pretty unusual that SB is donk leading full pot into two players on a monotone board where no two pairs are really possible.
In practice I probably raise/get it in, though given SB's sizing I think its at least somewhat close. PFR's flatting range is probably QQd, KKd, AAd, and some flopped flushes. Gotta figure SB's range for leading like this is mostly 666, (maaaybe JJJ?), flopped flushes esp low one's and maybe AdJ, KdJ or something. |
hes completely unknown, and i dont give anyone respect for playing good (or what should be correct) until they show me otherwise, especially at nl50. I think villain can have QdJx as well as Ad6x/Ad2x some here which makes me want to take maney.
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kmind
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Originally Posted by griffey24
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Originally Posted by bode
am i missing the unusual action?
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I guess it's pretty unusual that SB is donk leading full pot into two players on a monotone board where no two pairs are really possible.
In practice I probably raise/get it in, though given SB's sizing I think its at least somewhat close. PFR's flatting range is probably QQd, KKd, AAd, and some flopped flushes. Gotta figure SB's range for leading like this is mostly 666, (maaaybe JJJ?), flopped flushes esp low one's and maybe AdJ, KdJ or something. |
I have to think the PFR's flatting range doesn't have to include a diamond. Any QQ+ still calls imo, no?
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griffey24
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Yah.. im trying to decide if the PFR would be more or less likely to raise flop with QQ+ here and NO diamond... depends on villain I guess.
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Originally Posted by Jay-Z
I'm a couple hands down and I'm tryin' to get back
I gave the other grip, I lost a flip for five stacks
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bjsaust
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Yeah, I really dont have a read on that. I think he's kind of on the passive side so may just call down with an overpair incase he's behind, rather than raise to protect.
PSB donk lead really depends on how bad opponent is and we dont know. If decent he could very well be doing this with a TPTK or better hand (and thats really AJ or sets only on this board) to protect, but if bad this could be anything from pure bluff to flopped flush.
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IowaSkinsFan
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Call, turn is interesting depending on cards...
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bjsaust
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Ok. I didnt call, but for the sake of discussion lets say I did and the turn was:
8
SB checks and UTG+1 bets around 2/3 psb (so umm, $23 pot on turn and he bets say $15 leaving a $38 pot and $28 behind).
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clear call if sb has 100bb stack but its closer to a raise/call any because he has 20$.
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