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XTR1000
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12-17-2008, 10:10 PM
Post subject: bottom set deep in 3bet pot
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This person is standard TAG, 3bets not too tight or too crazy. Being deep and oop he probably isn´t very light here. What do I do? I feel I almost can´t b/c and b/f´ing bottom set is just nasty. Check back flop and let him bet his JJ/QQ?
$0.5/$1 No Limit Holdem
4 players
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Stacks:
Hero (CO) ($212.80)
BTN ($94.20)
SB ($145.80)
BB ($54.30)
Pre-flop: ($1.50, 4 players) Hero is CO  
Hero raises to $3, 1 fold, SB raises to $12.50, 1 fold, Hero calls $9.50
Flop:    ($26, 2 players)
SB checks
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Originally Posted by bigred
xtr stand for exotic tranny retards
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griffey24
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Bettttt
He's not c/folding AQ/AJ/KQ/KJ type hands and he might even have a hard time folding QQ/JJ to one bet.
but don't worry about QQ/JJ, you wanna get value from all his pair+insiders which probably makes up a bigger part of his range, before some crappy turn card kills your action/or your hand.
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Galapogos
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You're not that deep and now that you've flopped a monster there's less of a chance he has AA-KK you're more afraid of it. That aint right. Bet bet bet bet bet.
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Originally Posted by sauce123
I don't get why you insist on stacking off with like jack high all the time.
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XTR1000
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im not particularly scared of oversets. its just that in case he has AA/KK/AK we´ll get in anyway on later streets. Im wondering if I could take more off JJ/QQ/AQ by checking this flop
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Originally Posted by bigred
xtr stand for exotic tranny retards
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Galapogos
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Originally Posted by XTR1000
im not particularly scared of oversets. its just that in case he has AA/KK/AK we´ll get in anyway on later streets. Im wondering if I could take more off JJ/QQ/AQ by checking this flop
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I doubt it. There's two overs they're afraid of. So it's unlikely they'll call down two streets unimproved just because you checked this flop. Plus the fact that they have what's a good hand in general plus a gutshot will make them more inclined to call. He can also have others, AQ or AJ which are even more likely to call down. Plus he could have crappy aces. All that kind of stuff.
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Originally Posted by sauce123
I don't get why you insist on stacking off with like jack high all the time.
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Alexos
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meeloche
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They are going to think you're betting this board with 100% of your range where as they might not think the same on any turn. You will get called lighter if you bet the flop than if you check then bet turn.
So Bet.
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Luke999
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Bet. I mean he has 2 pair, top pair and a gutter more often than he does a higher set.
It's the turn that is more crucial depending on what fell.
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nutsinho
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all types of players are leading this flop more with their nut hands than if the flop is like AK6r. It's also easier to get value on the flop in 3bet pots than on the other streets. I would bet $14 expecting to be checkraised very, very rarely.
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