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04-03-2007, 01:15 AM
Post subject: bottom set, 3 way pot w/ straight and flush board ($100nl)
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Straight Flush
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Is this an easy push? The only reason i even posted this is because MP is a 10/4.5/2 nit over only 70 hands though. BB is 44/12/2 and has luckboxed a big stack from a 50bb buyin. BB could have anything, but most likely just a pair/2 pair hand. He could have a straight, but im not worried about that. Sine MP is such a nit, i put him on JJ+/AKs/AQ. I havent seen him play a FD, so i dont know how aggro he would be in that spot.
Thoughts?
Ultimate Bet No-Limit Hold'em, $1 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)
saw flop|saw showdown
MP ($107.85)
CO ($210.40)
Button ($111.20)
Hero ($103.70)
BB ($182.20)
UTG ($34.35)
Preflop: Hero is SB with 9 , 9 .
1 fold, MP raises to $3.5, 2 folds, Hero calls $3, BB calls $2.50.
Flop: ($10.50) Q , J , 9 (3 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $6, MP raises to $28.5, Hero ???
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gabe
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first off, get in the habit of leading on this flop
and yea i would push here because MP can be value raising the donk with huge range
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silu73
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Lead flop. 4-bet/push on resistance.
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Muzzard
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4-of-a-Kind
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There's no other way to play it really, you have to get it in.
Though I think the nit would fold hands we want to call if you do push? Like KK/AA and AQ. However he would be getting the right price to call with a flush draw 2.45:1 even if he puts you on the set.
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bode
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Straight Flush
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Originally Posted by gabe
first off, get in the habit of leading on this flop
and yea i would push here because MP can be value raising the donk with huge range
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i lead out flopped sets probly 75% of the time and in this case the pfr'er is c-betting this 100% of the time so i thought a c/r would be better. I was leading out sets 100% of the time and i felt that as i play more opp's that are aware that this could be pretty transparent.
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Galapogos
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Originally Posted by gabe
first off, get in the habit of leading on this flop
and yea i would push here because MP can be value raising the donk with huge range
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i lead out flopped sets probly 75% of the time and in this case the pfr'er is c-betting this 100% of the time so i thought a c/r would be better. I was leading out sets 100% of the time and i felt that as i play more opp's that are aware that this could be pretty transparent. |
Look at how the hand is set up though. What you accomplish by c/r'ing is squeeze the donk out. If you bet he calls and then hopefully the PFRr raises. You want to take a line that gets the most money out of the others here.
Worry about changing up your set play for HU pots. And if you play your draws aggressively enough you will still get your sets paid off by observant opponents because they will look the same as your draws.
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Originally Posted by sauce123
I don't get why you insist on stacking off with like jack high all the time.
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Fnord
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All-in because any action other than folding will tip your hand anyway and a shove is more likely to suggest weakness.
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bode
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Originally Posted by Galapogos
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Originally Posted by Bode-ist
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Originally Posted by gabe
first off, get in the habit of leading on this flop
and yea i would push here because MP can be value raising the donk with huge range
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i lead out flopped sets probly 75% of the time and in this case the pfr'er is c-betting this 100% of the time so i thought a c/r would be better. I was leading out sets 100% of the time and i felt that as i play more opp's that are aware that this could be pretty transparent. |
Look at how the hand is set up though. What you accomplish by c/r'ing is squeeze the donk out. If you bet he calls and then hopefully the PFRr raises. You want to take a line that gets the most money out of the others here.
Worry about changing up your set play for HU pots. And if you play your draws aggressively enough you will still get your sets paid off by observant opponents because they will look the same as your draws. |
that makes sense. i do lead out a good portion of my draws, as well as odd 2 pair hands so that should disguise sets. idk, i feel like i need to mix my play up a bit more now that im playing against (some) semi-aware villains.
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