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Fnord
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10-08-2006, 06:45 AM
Post subject: Boring hand, interesting table chat, timing is everything.
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I've folded just about every hand since I've sat down, 2-3 orbits. Last hand I raised limpers from my BB with QJo and took it down pre-flop.
I think BB is TAgg, I've seen him before but he's not in my database. He's opened a lot of hands, some on a limp so he might be in a high gear or my read might suck.
CO just sat down on a short-buy.
There is one other fish at the table, not in this hand, everyone else has been fairly tight, in line and playing small pots.
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)
CO ($44.65)
Button ($189.80)
Fnord ($204)
BB ($235.80)
UTG ($104.90)
MP ($197)
Preflop: Fnord is SB with K , K . CO posts a blind of $2.
1 fold, MP calls $2, CO (poster) checks, 1 fold, Fnord insta-raises to $10, BB fairly quickly re-raises to $21, MP folds, CO raises to $44.65, Fnord thinks.... calls $34.65, BB quickly re-raises to $235.8, Fnord thinks.... calls $159.35 (All-In).
How'd I do? BB seemed to be very surprised I considered laying this down.
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euphoricism
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Dont think you should fold, but if BB has anything but AA I'd be very, very surprised.
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Renton
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easy call
bb 5bets a very wide range to isolate the shorty, including AK, QQ, JJ, and possibly AQ or TT.
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euphoricism
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I might just shove it in after CO re-reraises.
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Robert
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Originally Posted by Renton
easy call
bb 5bets a very wide range to isolate the shorty, including AK, QQ, JJ, and possibly AQ or TT.
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i agree with renton. I think someone posted a similiar hand a couple of days ago where he was the BB and he pushed over with AK to isolate the shorty who was already allin in the hand
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Fnord
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Originally Posted by euphoricism
if BB has anything but AA I'd be very, very surprised.
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If you think this, then calling is absurd.
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Originally Posted by euphoricism
I might just shove it in after CO re-reraises.
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I pretty much ruled this out. BB rarely makes a mistake if I do this and I want to make sure I get the best of his $180 behind.
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The faster the raises the less likely its AA and more likely AK/QQ/JJ
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Fnord
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Originally Posted by Toadstool
The faster the raises the less likely its AA and more likely AK/QQ/JJ
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Yeah, if he starts his time bank, it's likely hollywood with the nuts.
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i like every action
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Robert
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Fnord,
Did he have AK/JJ then? That would be the most likely hands I would put him on.
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Fnord
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Tall stack had TT
Shortie had Q7s
I flop a King and it's easy money.
Tall stack gave me a ton of shit over tanking.
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Robert
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yeah TT is defenitly in his range as well.
BB's way of playing this hand is kinda "standard" for thinking players, and when this situation comes up once in a while it can be huge leak against thinking players and can be exploited, just like you did! nh dude
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Easy easy call, nothing to think about. Im not in the never fold KK pf camp but this is definitely not the spot to fold.
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Originally Posted by Fnord
Tall stack had TT
Shortie had Q7s
I flop a King and it's easy money.
Tall stack gave me a ton of shit over tanking.
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"Sorry, I was too busy remembering how dumb people are"
or
"I'm playing 12 tables, i almost folded"
or my favorite:
"zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz"
Not pushing like this preflop is an excellent line, and I probably wouldn't have done it. Well played.
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Originally Posted by elipsesjeff
Not pushing like this preflop is an excellent line, and I probably wouldn't have done it. Well played.
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Difference in mind-set. I wasn't playing for the pot, I was playing for his stack.
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