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12-05-2008, 03:56 AM
Post subject: Bluff vs. reg
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4-of-a-Kind
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PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2.00 BB (6 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com
UTG ($209.80)
MP ($215.85)
CO ($208)
Button ($774.90)
SB ($267.15)
Hero (BB) ($220.60)
Preflop: Hero is BB with 10 , 8
2 folds, CO raises to $6, 2 folds, Hero calls $4
Flop: ($13) 10 , 7 , 5 (2 players)
Hero bets $6, CO raises to $20, Hero calls $14
Turn: ($53) A (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $30, Hero raises to $70
villain is browerkid, a tag reg around 18/14
I was MTTing and got confused who raised and ended up donking thinking I was cbetting so his range is pretty wide here to raise flop.
The way I see it I accidently induced a raise here vs. most regs because most donk leads are either marginal hands or monsters.
**Edit
is it bad calling a flop raise like this to steal it on scare cards or to pick up other outs? I'd think good turns for us are A's, diamonds, perhaps one of the Str8 draws hitting but people tend to pay those off. Or am I just wasting $ in such a draw heavy situation?
Usually I fold flop as standard but I've been in a frisky mood lately to increase my non-showdown winnings
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zook
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Hate every street. Your hand doesn't look like immense strength, a set would have 3bet the flop, which isn't dry at all. Your hand looks like the nfd that hit a pair on the turn, so any decent ace will ship. btw, if you thought you were cbetting, why'd you make it $6 into $13 on this board?
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mixchange
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I edited the above for clarity to the next poster, Zook. I wrote the analysis the next day looking the hand up as I had pasted in notepad and missed the flush draw.
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zook
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12-05-2008, 03:03 PM
Post subject: Re: Bluff vs. reg
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by mixchange
is it bad calling a flop raise like this to steal it on scare cards or to pick up other outs? I'd think good turns for us are A's, diamonds, perhaps one of the Str8 draws hitting but people tend to pay those off. Or am I just wasting $ in such a draw heavy situation?
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imo you have 10 bluffing outs and 5 real outs here so calling this small flop raise isn't terrible I guess. He could have the nfd himself though. I don't think Ac is a great bluff card for you because I doubt he's bet/folding it unless he's bad.
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Originally Posted by mixchange
Usually I fold flop as standard but I've been in a frisky mood lately to increase my non-showdown winnings
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I think this is a dubious goal. In good games, with bad players that take too many bad hands to showdown, your non-showdown winnings are usually going to be negative.
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