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bbqsquirrel

03-12-2007, 08:25 PM Post subject: Bluff-inducing checks with success

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A few months ago in the main strategy forum I brought up a discussion on whether to block-bet or bluff-inducing check on river with a decent non-monster (like TPGK / overpair unimproved).

Back then I was playing full ring. Now that I have switched to 6max where players are more aggressive and bluff more, I find that the bluff-inducing check is rather profitable. Recently I have gotten to the point where I am check-calling river OOP almost indiscriminately when no obvious draws completed. This also explains why my river aggression factor (noted in my checkup thread) is rather low (1.50). Sometimes I also tank into the check-call mode with really good hands against out-of-line opponents.

So far I have got mixed result -- more good than bad though, as more often than not I catch some hideous bluffs. What does everyone else think?

Here are a bunch of hands, some of which posted before:

http://www.pokerhand.org/?897982
Trying to catch someone bluffing with QJ/QT/JT, I guess. Turns out to be wishful thinking.
http://www.pokerhand.org/?889672
JJ, disgusting turn and river. No solid read, except from his limp-cold call 2 bets I put him on a middle PP. It turns out he had 65 instead (lol).
http://www.pokerhand.org/?889677
AK TP against a FD. Opponent is a solid regular. This, my friend, is called a read.
http://www.pokerhand.org/?883789
TT running into 99 flopped top set. As I played more with this opponent I discovered that he was straightforward, not too tight and unimaginative. Unfortunately I didn't know that at the time of the hand.
http://www.pokerhand.org/?883794
Another JJ hand. No reads at that time. Since I showed weakness, I decided that opponent's huge turn bet is a bluff, and on the river I decided that my 5th best flush was good enough for a showdown.
http://www.pokerhand.org/?883790
Opponent is a megadonk that would fold to aggression but would take stab at pots, so I decided to check ahead on the river with my set of Aces. Things worked out charmingly.
http://www.pokerhand.org/?863068
AA, turned 3 spades, rivered a set that I wasn't sure whether it helped -- check-calldown mode.
http://www.pokerhand.org/?877040
K9s, turned 2nd nut flush. I just let my opponent hang himself afterwards.
http://www.pokerhand.org/?877042
Ass straight looking even worse on a brutal river, but I reasoned that opponent could easily have AT/KT/QT/busted spades as well as J9/J8/J7.
http://www.pokerhand.org/?877056
Against multiple opponent I wasn't sure whether my 9-high flush was good, so I again went into check-call mode. Here I was underflushed, but I minimized my damage.
http://www.pokerhand.org/?842243
Turned trip 3s in the blinds, river gave me an underhouse, so again it was check call mode. Somebody made a huge bluff with a missed FD that he picked up on turn.
http://www.pokerhand.org/?839405
Losing everything with 2-pairs, opponent rivered his set.
http://www.pokerhand.org/?839408
I induced a huge turn bet from my opponent after I checked my weak overpair. Why would anybody with a real hand play this way? So far I have represented missed big cards. If opponent has a set wouldn't he want to check and let me catch up a little on the river? If he had a bigger overpair, wouldn't he want to bet smaller so that I would still draw incorrectly to 6 outs? I called another bluff on the river and deservingly scooped up the pot.
http://www.pokerhand.org/?815641
I had Aces up when the guy decided to go apeshit. Turns out he only had a gutshot.

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zenbitz

03-12-2007, 10:55 PM

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I didn't read your hands (too many of them) but in general I like this strategy. My problem with it is that it's hard to balance when you have nothing (i.e, most of the time), also you get value bet to death.

euphoricism

03-13-2007, 03:00 AM

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Holy hell thats a lot of hands. Cull out the best 3, i have a strong feeling as-is no ones going to look at ANY.

OOP I'm doing a lot of bet, bet, check on the river lines with drawy boards i've certainly picked up a lot of money on the river from hands that would have normally folded to even a minbet. The few times its checked behind, villain had nothing they could call with anyway, so I dont see much value lost.

Occasionally I'll see something like 2nd pair weak kicker which *might* have called a value bet, but I dont worry too much about it.

IN position, however, I found I was getting SMOKED by checking through turns and autocalling rivers. Now on the river I've started to make less AUTO calls. I generally just pause for a second and ask myself "is he serious?" I'm still wrong from time to time, but it has definitely improved.

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vegascoop

03-13-2007, 03:57 AM

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I use this type of line a lot and have success too. I play more typical TAG against the full stack regs and use this type of line to let the short stack unknowns bluff off their money.

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