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Old 02-21-2008, 04:45 PM     Post subject: Bluff goot? #1 (permalink)  
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CO ($215.40)
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Pre-flop: ($3, 6 players) Hero is BTN
3 folds, Hero raises to $8, 1 fold, BB calls $6

Flop: ($17, 2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($17, 2 players)
BB bets $14, Hero raises to $44, BB calls $30

River: ($105, 2 players)
BB bets $50, Hero goes all-in $148, BB folds

Final Pot: $300.00

Hero wins $300 ( won +$100 )
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Old 02-21-2008, 05:14 PM #2 (permalink)  
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Old 02-21-2008, 06:02 PM #3 (permalink)  
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well what are your reads on villain. if he is a fish, which from his line it looks like he is, then i actually dont like it, because fish probably wont fold an A or any low 2 pair.
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Old 02-21-2008, 08:04 PM #4 (permalink)  
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No. This is just terrible because he never folds an ace.
 
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Old 02-21-2008, 10:00 PM #5 (permalink)  
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i really hate the way you played this hand.

why didnt you bet the flop? why are you raising the turn?

for one .. this was a good flop for u ... there are tons of cards that will be good for u to double barrel ... a club gives u 2nd nfd, anything higher than an 8 is good, an ace is great ... but now Ace falls and he leads into u, if u had a marginal ace ... anything besides AQ/AK you would just call here like 100% ... so it means you are repping a flopped set i guess? .. .but why would u check a set when u shouldnt expect villain to give u any credit for w/ a c-bet anyways? it doesn't add up ...

villain is obv blocker betting an ace on the river, i think u just got lucky that he wasnt so bad that he couldn't fold.

bet flop. double barrel many turns. triple barrel if u river a flush or hit a king. thats my advice.
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Old 02-22-2008, 02:14 AM #6 (permalink)  
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Sorry forgot to add, villain is thinking Tagg, we have a bit of history, and i hardly ever bluff like this. 95% of the time, i have the goods here. I probs should have bet the flop yah, but im repping AK with my line here.
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Old 02-22-2008, 02:16 AM #7 (permalink)  
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bet flop. double barrel many turns. triple barrel if u river a flush or hit a king. .
That's usually my standard line too, guess i should stick to it huh?
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Old 02-22-2008, 02:25 AM #8 (permalink)  
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im repping AK with my line here.
im not really sure how many thinking villains are going to give you credit for AK here. it is just such a bizarre line.
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Old 02-22-2008, 02:33 AM #9 (permalink)  
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id never think u have AK here, I'd expect AK to c-bet 100% of the time, it just looks like u got a little fancy play syndrome and got lucky that villain happened to believe u this time. This is really bad spew so make sure u don't get result oriented and assume it's good cuz it worked this one time.
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Old 02-22-2008, 12:34 PM #10 (permalink)  
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Old 02-22-2008, 12:54 PM #11 (permalink)  
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Hmm I don't like it. Of course if villain is weak-tight he might fold a decent amount.

But if you are repping AK this way I think you should c-bet your AK.

Also this I'm not sure about, but I think it's better to call turn if you are planning a move. You have quite some outs and if you think this turn raise in a vacuum is +EV than I think betting all missed rivers when checked to is more +EV, combined with sometimes hitting your outs.
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Old 02-22-2008, 12:55 PM #12 (permalink)  
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Not better if you're deep imo. You're probably not gonna be valueraising this river very thin at all when deep, so he's gonna say "well he's got a weird set/A7 or a bluff, I'll look him up".

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Old 02-22-2008, 03:02 PM #13 (permalink)  
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I guess it's true, i cut down to 6 tables and i do get FPS
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