|
dsaxton
|
09-11-2007, 05:47 PM
Post subject: A bluff.
|
#1 (permalink)
|
|
4-of-a-Kind
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Arlington, VA
Posts: 2,667
|
|
It's been a while since I've played no limit holdem, but I thought this was an interesting hand. I'm not sure if this is too big of a gamble.
My opponent seems to play preflop chicken holdem. He's reraised me a fair amount preflop and in one particular hand I raised to $3 UTG, he reraised to $10, I reraised to $35 and he instafolded. Other than that, I've been multitabling and haven't watched him very closely, although I have noticed that he's a multitabler.
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)
MP ($137.35)
Hero ($125.95)
SB ($71.85)
BB ($85.30)
UTG ($133)
Preflop: Hero is Button with K , Q .
2 folds, Hero raises to $3, 1 fold, BB raises to $9, Hero calls $6.
Flop: ($18.50) 5, J , 2 (2 players)
BB bets $18, Hero raises to $116.95
|
|
|
Play for FREE and practice your game at...
Join the FTR Poker Forum to disable these banners and start posting!
|
|
|~|ypermegachi
|
|
4-of-a-Kind
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: emo-kid
Posts: 3,580
|
|
the only hand you're folding is AK.
|
|
|
|
Renton
|
|
Straight Flush
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Atlanta, GA, USA
Posts: 5,992
|
|
i'd like it better if he had bet smaller
|
|
|
|
dsaxton
|
|
4-of-a-Kind
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Arlington, VA
Posts: 2,667
|
|
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by |~|ypermegachi
the only hand you're folding is AK.
|
Any pair below J's, random ace high hands, a lot of other crap he decided to 3-bet with?
|
|
|
|
benny999
|
|
4-of-a-Kind
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 1,567
|
|
it can be a good play vs taggy 3bet/cbet types, but there i dunno since his stack size and the big cbet looks like he's more donkish and overplaying something.
do you know if he cbets every time, or if a PSB means something for him?
|
|
|
|
|~|ypermegachi
|
|
4-of-a-Kind
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: emo-kid
Posts: 3,580
|
|
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by dsaxton
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by |~|ypermegachi
the only hand you're folding is AK.
|
Any pair below J's, random ace high hands, a lot of other crap he decided to 3-bet with? |
do you at least have stats on the guy? against the average TAG, the PSB on the flop is rarely a bluff.
|
|
|
|
crazycrazy
|
|
Straight
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 240
|
|
ur bluff dont really make sense-- what are u representing ? JJ set ? u dont push that KK,AA u 4 bet pre. AJ,QQ? too narrow to believe that.
|
|
|
|
Genitruc
|
|
Straight Flush
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 4,463
|
|
If you think he's overaggro then calling flop and shoving most turns is way sicker and funner
|
|
when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?
|
|
dsaxton
|
|
4-of-a-Kind
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Arlington, VA
Posts: 2,667
|
|
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by Genitruc
If you think he's overaggro then calling flop and shoving most turns is way sicker and funner
|
I suppose, but doesn't this give him a chance to improve as well as being a weaker play?
|
|
|
|
Trikflow77
|
|
Full House
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: im so asian
Posts: 1,460
|
|
i think its pretty terrible. Unless he is a monkey his 3 bet range is really tight out of the big blind, so you fold out AK and maybe TT, hell a lot of ll players dont even 3 bet TT pre here.
|
|
|
|
IowaSkinsFan
|
|
Straight Flush
Join Date: Oct 2004
Posts: 7,148
|
|
trik is right
|
|
|
|
Genitruc
|
|
Straight Flush
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 4,463
|
|
with overs, runner runner flush and str8 it s a great spot to float if you think he is often FOS on flop
If I thought this was the case I'd call intending to bet/shove over a turn bet when any T, K, Q or spade hit and sometimes bet a blank when checked to.
I should have realized that guy's stack size makes this a shitty spot for a float. If he had something like 120bb's the float would be lots more fun.
|
|
when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?
|
|
Pelion
|
|
4-of-a-Kind
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 3,206
|
|
I think its pretty bad. Id say it was bad with AK when were pretty sure we have overs but with KQ we probably have even fewer outs some of the time. We are never going to be better than about 25%-30% equity when called, Were often going to be quite a bit less. That means we need him to fold over half the time (as an estimate) and I just dont think he missed that flop with over half his range. Even 2 overs will have a FD sometimes and call but at least he cant have AKs.
|
|
gabe: Ive dropped almost 100k in the past 35 days.
bigspenda73: But how much did you win?
|
|
dsaxton
|
|
4-of-a-Kind
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Arlington, VA
Posts: 2,667
|
|
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by Renton
i'd like it better if he had bet smaller
|
The big bet made me more inclined to bluff, since it put more money in the pot. I didn't really think he was likelier to be holding a real hand on account of his slightly larger than normal bet size.
|
|
|
|
|~|ypermegachi
|
|
4-of-a-Kind
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: emo-kid
Posts: 3,580
|
|
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by dsaxton
The big bet made me more inclined to bluff, since it put more money in the pot. I didn't really think he was likelier to be holding a real hand on account of his slightly larger than normal bet size.
|
bigger bets makes it easier to get it all in on the current and/or later streets.
|
|
|
|
Renton
|
|
Straight Flush
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Atlanta, GA, USA
Posts: 5,992
|
|
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by dsaxton
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by Renton
i'd like it better if he had bet smaller
|
The big bet made me more inclined to bluff, since it put more money in the pot. I didn't really think he was likelier to be holding a real hand on account of his slightly larger than normal bet size. |
I think it absolutely increases the chance of him having a real hand. Even if that isn't true, you have to at least admit that it polarizes his range, causing u to have terrible equity when called.
|
|
|
|
Ash256
|
|
4-of-a-Kind
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: UK
Posts: 1,760
|
|
I'd be tempted to call with 99 here if I was opponent.
|
|
|
English
Deutsch
Español
Français
Italiano
Nederlands
Pусский
Svenska
06-02-2012, 08:10 PM Merge Network 6.0 Looks to Retain Current Player Base
Linear Mode
