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Old 02-13-2008, 01:23 AM     Post subject: Blind battle with some history #1 (permalink)  
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 Previous 2 orbits I raise his big blind and take the pot down either by cbetting or turn cbetting a scare card. I had a feeling that he was having enough of it. Given that, what's my best play on turn here, and why?

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Table "SaoLuis" Seat 6 is the button.
Seat 1: beatriz sits out
Seat 2: HERO($2005.25 in chips)
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Seat 4: Kj2112 sits out
Seat 5: Haagendaz ($1015 in chips)
Seat 6: Pard01 ($1070 in chips)

Pre-flop: (4 players) Hero is SB with
2 folds, Hero raises to $30, BB calls.

Flop: ($60, 2 players)
Hero bets $45, BB calls.

Turn: ($150, 2 players)
Hero ??
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Old 02-13-2008, 01:25 AM #2 (permalink)  
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Old 02-13-2008, 02:40 AM #4 (permalink)  
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b/f?
nah. i bet/shove. why are we assuming that he only raises and/or calls flop with K8 or KT?
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Old 02-13-2008, 06:34 AM #5 (permalink)  
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b/3b all in, as others have said ... 3rd time is gonna be the adjustment usually, and that card looks so scary that he'll have to think u couldn't resist running the same play again. he can be checkraising u here w/ absolute air based on history, and no matter what, even if eh has the flush u still do have some equity ....
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 eh i'd bet/fold, It's more likely that you're gonna get called on the turn in which case you should 3-barrel.
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eh i'd bet/fold, It's more likely that you're gonna get called on the turn in which case you should 3-barrel.
i just dont agree here. this is such a great card for him to bluff, especially given history, and we have good holdings.
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eh i'd bet/fold, It's more likely that you're gonna get called on the turn in which case you should 3-barrel.
At first I kinda thought this as well. But since he'll give us no credit for barreling the K, why are we folding when he can shove AsX or some sort of combo draws with spades in them?

To make c/f correct we're assuming he's calling with those hands and not raising them. I'm not sure how he would play those, but the possibility of him raising those hands makes me want to bet/call.
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 b3b all in EASILY given hist
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we need a concensus here!
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we need a concensus here!
well there seems to be a pretty clear consensus, just not a unanimous one. only massimo disagrees.
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b3b all in EASILY given hist
Turn is actually a good card to do this with.
 
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eh i'd bet/fold, It's more likely that you're gonna get called on the turn in which case you should 3-barrel.
At first I kinda thought this as well. But since he'll give us no credit for barreling the K, why are we folding when he can shove AsX or some sort of combo draws with spades in them?

To make c/f correct we're assuming he's calling with those hands and not raising them. I'm not sure how he would play those, but the possibility of him raising those hands makes me want to bet/call.
First of all you say he's a very good tagg reg... wtf does that mean? lol, thats like not a read.

Second of all, if he thinks you're bluffing he's probably not going to raise any hand with a pair, so he'd have to be floating Asx with no pair which i guess is plausible. and then QJ with or without a spade. He's probably raising the turn with a small range. It's close...

I'd just be really surprised if you got raised on the turn at all.
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 Just bet the turn and then bet the turn with a ton of hands as bluffs in this situation.
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