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04-25-2007, 01:55 AM
Post subject: Blah blah bluff raise vs. a nit
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UTG is a huge nit 17/6.
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)
BB ($110.60)
UTG ($123.40)
MP ($237.95)
CO ($157.40)
Hero ($101.80)
SB ($104.10)
Preflop: Hero is Button with 7 , 8.
UTG raises to $4, 1 fold, CO calls $4, Hero calls $4, 1 fold, BB calls $3.
Flop: ($16.50) 5 , K, T (4 players)
BB checks, UTG checks, CO checks, Hero checks.
Turn: ($16.50) 5 (4 players)
BB checks, UTG bets $11, CO folds, Hero raises to $32...
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gabe
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i like, but seems like he shows up with KK TT enough that i wouldnt be too happy if i got called
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Genitruc
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fine
Just gotta pump the river if a blank hits!
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when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?
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ARK
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04-25-2007, 02:11 AM
Post subject: Re: Blah blah bluff raise vs. a nit
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Just out of curiosity, why did you make this a 100NL hand when this happened at 25NL?
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mcatdog
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04-25-2007, 02:16 AM
Post subject: Re: Blah blah bluff raise vs. a nit
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Originally Posted by ARK
Just out of curiosity, why did you make this a 100NL hand when this happened at 25NL?
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Hah, busted! 
I only have like 500 bucks on Stars right now I'm trying to build a roll without having to pull money out of my funds since I started playing again last week. Didn't know you posted here.
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mcatdog
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Originally Posted by Genitruc
fine
Just gotta pump the river if a blank hits!
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Why? Do you put him on AQ clubs or something if he calls the turn?
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gabe
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04-25-2007, 02:23 AM
Post subject: Re: Blah blah bluff raise vs. a nit
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Just out of curiosity, why did you make this a 100NL hand when this happened at 25NL?
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out of curiosity, why do you care? seems like the only reason you could have for calling him out is to embarrass him. pretty dickish ...
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Genitruc
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Originally Posted by Genitruc
fine
Just gotta pump the river if a blank hits!
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Why? Do you put him on AQ clubs or something if he calls the turn? |
hmm
i guess my thinking was stupid since my initial read on a nit checking the flop then making a small bet on turn is JJ/QQ most of the time in this spot
He wouldn't call with those hands unless he were weird/bad/brilliant so shutting down when called is prob best.
Whoops sry.
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when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?
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ARK
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04-25-2007, 02:28 AM
Post subject: Re: Blah blah bluff raise vs. a nit
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Originally Posted by ARK
Just out of curiosity, why did you make this a 100NL hand when this happened at 25NL?
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out of curiosity, why do you care? seems like the only reason you could have for calling him out is to embarrass him. pretty dickish ... |
As the huge nit in the hand, I felt like saying something! But you're right, sorry mcat. I was actually thinking of posting this hand myself.
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ARK
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04-25-2007, 02:31 AM
Post subject: Re: Blah blah bluff raise vs. a nit
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Originally Posted by ARK
Just out of curiosity, why did you make this a 100NL hand when this happened at 25NL?
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Hah, busted!
I only have like 500 bucks on Stars right now I'm trying to build a roll without having to pull money out of my funds since I started playing again last week. Didn't know you posted here. |
Don't really post but long-time lurker. Again, sorry buddy. No hard feelings I hope. Thought you were on 65 or air but I knew you were an FTRer and I got scurred
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i like it.
do u have a plan for if he calls?
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Genitruc
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hmm
"meta"- thread issues make this interesting.
Results?
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when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?
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mcatdog
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ARK - I would call pre with A5 75 65 45 which is 8 possible combos, but there are at least ten possible ways for me to have clubs here (Ax J9 98 97 87 86 76 I'd probably bet the flop with QJ and just call here with JT T9). Everyone folded but I'm probably bluffing more often than not in this spot. That might be OK because it looks like no one has much of a hand.
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i like, but seems like he shows up with KK TT enough that i wouldnt be too happy if i got called
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I get the feeling KK-TT bets the turn harder. Seems more like QQ-JJ to me.
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I don't get why you insist on stacking off with like jack high all the time.
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yeah this is good.
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seems fine... problem is most nits who check flop with JJ QQ are committed to calling 2 bets so u have to fire river often. Also, ur flush draw is almost completely irrelevant.
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I got more flava than fruitstripe gum
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Genitruc
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Originally Posted by sauce123
seems fine... problem is most nits who check flop with JJ QQ are committed to calling 2 bets so u have to fire river often. Also, ur flush draw is almost completely irrelevant.
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I think this is why I instinctively suggested it being good if you fire the river
meh who knows...
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when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?
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seems fine... problem is most nits who check flop with JJ QQ are committed to calling 2 bets so u have to fire river often. Also, ur flush draw is almost completely irrelevant.
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I must be stupid or something, but why bet the river if he is commited to calling with a better hand?
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seems fine... problem is most nits who check flop with JJ QQ are committed to calling 2 bets so u have to fire river often. Also, ur flush draw is almost completely irrelevant.
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I must be stupid or something, but why bet the river if he is commited to calling with a better hand? |
he s committed to calling turn raise calling b.s. but will often fold on the river with a QQ type hand
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when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?
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seems fine... problem is most nits who check flop with JJ QQ are committed to calling 2 bets so u have to fire river often. Also, ur flush draw is almost completely irrelevant.
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I must be stupid or something, but why bet the river if he is commited to calling with a better hand? |
he s committed to calling turn raise calling b.s. but will often fold on the river with a QQ type hand |
Ahhh... to me "calling 2 bets" means your turn raise AND your river bet.
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04-26-2007, 02:50 AM
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Just out of curiosity, why did you make this a 100NL hand when this happened at 25NL?
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this type of thing is common. a lot of players who are high stakes 1k would post it at 100NL. otherwise, people don't feel "worthy" to give advice.
likewise, the other way around tends to get less "the stakes are low call any day" type responses.
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