Originally Posted by gabe

"i cold call preflop like you did"

i was talking to 2 other FTR NL players in vegas and they also didnt know what the term cold call really means. i should start a thread or something.

Originally Posted by Massimo

2. Not raising the turn is a crime. There are wayyy too many scare cards for your opponent. You could even do a small raise, giving the guy a bit of odds for a draw, while with a K he'll push. I also don't undertsand why you don't just push your stack in on the river, he'll probably have an easier time calling that then the small raise.

I disagree with turn advice. I think calling is a good play, repopping shows we beleive we can beat a K. calling gives opp the control to bet river, there are scare cards but some of them could give opp FH too etc etc plus it keeps his semi bluffs in the game too. river should of been a SHOVE by hero obv IMHO

3. There's really no value in betting the river, he probably has an overpair here. Everything else was fine.

hmm i dunno, i think id still bet river here. hero bet 1/2 pot so i think its fine. 1/4-1/2 pot seems fine though i think anymore would be bad.

Originally Posted by |~|ypermegachi

so what would this action be?

UTG raises, MP calls, Hero calls.

is this a cold-over-call?

Originally Posted by gabe

1 id call the flop, hes probably not going to bluff you on the turn, or value bet worse
2 yea
3 basically you are hoping he fired 2 barrels with Tx and makes a hero call or has 99 and thinks the same......both of those are a small % of the time so i check
4 std

Originally Posted by Massimo

1. i cold call preflop like you did. The flop kinda sucks, you can really just fold to his bet, calling may be ok. Pushing is pointless because you're folding out everything you beat.

2. Not raising the turn is a crime. There are wayyy too many scare cards for your opponent. You could even do a small raise, giving the guy a bit of odds for a draw, while with a K he'll push. I also don't undertsand why you don't just push your stack in on the river, he'll probably have an easier time calling that then the small raise.

3. There's really no value in betting the river, he probably has an overpair here. Everything else was fine.

Originally Posted by gabe

crazy as it sounds, if you bet more on the hand 3 river you get called more often against good players when you are an unknown

Originally Posted by apunisher

gabe, fnord....whoever

lets say utg raises, co 3bets, and i call from bb

is this cold calling?

Originally Posted by bigspenda73

Yes there has to be a 3bet JGB otherwise it's an overcall.

It's calling two bets cold, not calling one bet after someone else has bet and someone else has called, that's an overcall.

Better question really is what does PT think a coldcall is?