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Old 05-01-2007, 09:09 PM     Post subject: big draws on blank turns #1 (permalink)  
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I feel a little lost lately when playing my big draws (>=12 outs) on the turn. On the flop I generally play them aggressively, betting/raising them and pretty well looking to get AI on the flop (or fold out opp).

The problem I have been encountering lately is what to do on the turn when you have bet the flop, been called, and the turn is a brick? I don't know what types of boards/opponents I should be firing again against, and which ones I should check/call(or fold) against.

I basically seem to be betting enough to price myself in to call the inevitable push, which seems bad long term.

Any advice for both in and out of position, or examples of big draws with blank turns would be helpful.
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Old 05-01-2007, 09:42 PM #2 (permalink)  
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Old 05-01-2007, 09:49 PM #3 (permalink)  
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I think this highly depends on the amount of fold equity you expect (based on the board, and based on the player you are against)

If I am OOP and I check raised the flop, I'm probably firing the turn. Though sometimes when you check raise, and check the turn they check through, thinking you are trying to pull the good old double check-raise move.

In position, if I raise the flop, and then I feel I have no FE, I might check through. Especially if the stacks are deep, and I don't want to get pushed off my draw, I'll check through.
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Old 05-02-2007, 12:11 AM #4 (permalink)  
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I usually just push on the flop with big draws like this, and c/push if i'm OOP. it increases your fold equity, and seeing the turn with money behind with hands like these are usually not good. as you said, if you miss, now your hand is a dog in a big pot and your in a tough spot; or if you hit one of your outs, it's gonna kill the action a lot of the time. I think pushing on the flop has the highest +EV usually.
 
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