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Old 05-09-2008, 12:07 PM     Post subject: Bet size for maximum value? Ladbrokes 20NL #1 (permalink)  
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- kayjane86 sitting in seat 1 with $19.80
- runningbear sitting in seat 2 with $2.72
- Gungadok sitting in seat 3 with $29.53
- Hero sitting in seat 4 with $32.21 [Dealer]
- Jahopps sitting in seat 5 with $15.35
- Moleson sitting in seat 6 with $21.06

Jahopps posted the small blind - $0.10
Moleson posted the big blind - $0.20
** Dealing card to Hero: 6 of Clubs, 7 of Clubs
2 folds, Gungadok called - $0.20, Hero raised - $0.80, 2 folds, Gungadok called - $0.80

($1.90)** Dealing the flop: 3 of Spades, Queen of Clubs, 6 of Diamonds
Gungadok bet - $0.40
Hero called - $0.40

($2.70)** Dealing the turn: 6 of Hearts
Gungadok bet - $0.40
Hero called - $0.40

($3.50)** Dealing the river: 7 of Diamonds
Gungadok bet - $0.20
Hero raised - $1.60
Gungadok raised - $3.00
Hero - ???

Should I just shove here? How about making it 12ish? Smaller/bigger? Does anyone out there think for a second that I might not be way in the lead here? If so, why? Better line on any street? No reads on villain, PAHud hasn't even picked him up yet.

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Old 05-09-2008, 06:33 PM #4 (permalink)  
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I never normally slow play, but this is one of the few occasions where I chose too. It's a rainbow board, and a double barrel into the pre-flop raiser with an OESD is something you see on these tables like next to never. I think raising turns my hand pretty much face up, and then he's either folding (most likely), coming over the top to push me off a weak 6 because he's really clever, and I have to fold (least likely), coming over the top with a better 6 (or boat, etc), and I have to fold (mildly likely), or hanging in there for a small amount with QJ, and then c/fing the river (somewhat likely). If he has a better 6, I want a cheap river to boat up. If he has TPWK I want to give him the chance to make TTP, then felt him, or I want the river to be like an 8 so I can represent A8, and get him to call my raise after he makes another tiny bet.

So that's why I slow played, what's the thought process behind not doing so in this spot?
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Old 05-09-2008, 07:23 PM #5 (permalink)  
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Old 05-10-2008, 08:19 PM #6 (permalink)  
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Well... yeah. The idea is to win the biggest pot possible, or loose the smallest pot possible. I don't think anyone disagrees with that, the debate is how best to achieve that, not whether or not it needs to be achieved.

So why does raising do that better than calling in this spot? I'm not saying raising is flat out bad, I just think calling is better here.
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Old 05-10-2008, 08:26 PM #7 (permalink)  
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Because he still calls with a Queen, and probably calls with 45

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