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unclemikect
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10-20-2006, 02:08 PM
Post subject: Best [fishiest] 6 max game is WHERE ???
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Since party closed to US players I'm still just looking around for a new place to play....Would any here care to reccommend a new site??...I usually play 25 nl up to 100nl 6 max...but I'll switch to full ring games if any here say they are more profitable on any paticular site..TIA...mike
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Renton
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all 100nl sixmax and lower at all sites is fishy probably
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Pokerroom > Ultimate Bet > Full Tilt
my opinion...I prefer Ultimate simply because the software is tons better and a whole lot faster than Pokerroom, but i havent played worse players than at Pokerroom...including party - okay, maybe thats extreme
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I'd spend more time working on your game instead of looking for "fishier" rooms if you're having trouble beating $100 6-max or lower.
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TheXianti: (Triptanes) why are you not a thinking person?
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Renton
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yea game selection isn't even really a factor until 2/4 imo
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Originally Posted by DaNutsInYoEye
I'd spend more time working on your game instead of looking for "fishier" rooms if you're having trouble beating $100 6-max or lower.
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Aye.
Nobody has said Stars? Those games are just as good as Party's were.
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Nobody has said Stars? Those games are just as good as Party's were.
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i beg to differ, you are probably just running hot. lots and lots of tags have moved in to PS.
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Originally Posted by elipsesjeff
Nobody has said Stars? Those games are just as good as Party's were.
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i beg to differ, you are probably just running hot. lots and lots of tags have moved in to PS.
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I dunno, I am only playing 100 NL so its not like even the TAGs are that great.
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I found the stars games even at 50 and 100NL as rock ass tight. Maybe one hand saw a turn every orbit.
I jumped back to UB, and my life has been much happier. Also, the software isn't slow as fuck, and frustrating as fuck like stars (multitabling and having to click 3+ times on a button to get it to do anything gets annoying quick).
Ive heard good things about FT, but never deposited.
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i never seem to have a problem getting any action on Stars. And you can change the clicky thing in the options...
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i've been playin at the prima tables because i had a bonus to clear. i can't say what the level of play is relative to other sites, because i've only played NL ring at prima.
i keep running into the same mt tags, so i usually end up spending more time table selecting than actually playing...which kinda sucks (i think fnord once mentioned some of the fishiest players have tag stats...does anyone have linky?). competition isn't too bad, probably 10/35/35/10 ratio for fish/lag/tap/tag.
anyways, i just logged onto stars and party for the first time in LONG time, and i'm surprised that stars has double the amount of 0.50/1.00 players. they can't ALL be tags!
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lol a whole thread without bodog being mentioned.
Fwiw, if you arent rolled for 200nl you should probably be bonsu whoring or be playing at a site with good a rb deal imo.
When you become rolled for 200nl i think FT, bodog or Stars are the only places where youll find enough 200l action (pretty sure these all still take US customers)
fwiw, prima 200nl is much softer than its 100nl games.
Id admit stars games have improved, but they arent even close to being fishy compared to some sites, but are probably the bets choice to just down and 9 table grind.
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yea game selection isn't even really a factor until 2/4 imo
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I agree for the most part, but starting this month I've noticed that game selection is now important at 1/2 as well. In fact 1/2 is like the new 2/4. The FTP 1/2 game has a lot of regulars (most aren't anything special, but a table full of them isn't the most profitable game either), and 2/4 is filled with a lot of 3/6 and 5/10 players who took a large portion of their roll offline due to recentl legislation.
I'd say UB is a good site to play on, lots of hands per hour, opponents are pretty donkish and overaggro. I'm not a huge fan of the overall look of UB but it's tolerable. I really miss Party though.
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Yeah, I just played from 11pm-3am central time on Stars, mostly four tabling...It was pretty freaking tight, and I jumped around a lot to try to find good tables. (small sample size, I know)
Nothing like the old Party games. 
P.S. I was playing NL100.
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Originally Posted by euphoricism
...frustrating as fuck like stars (multitabling and having to click 3+ times on a button to get it to do anything gets annoying quick).
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Yeah - what's up with that? I thought it was my crappy mouse or something. I dunno what Stars has that creates such loyalty among the FTR userbase but it certainly isn't its ease of use.
(and while I'm at it, it sucks to be typing in Aim or something and for a Stars table to pop up and whatever you're typing to suddenly appear in the chatbox. Can be rather embarrassing)
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(and while I'm at it, it sucks to be typing in Aim or something and for a Stars table to pop up and whatever you're typing to suddenly appear in the chatbox. Can be rather embarrassing)
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Now thats something I can agree on.
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Originally Posted by euphoricism
...frustrating as fuck like stars (multitabling and having to click 3+ times on a button to get it to do anything gets annoying quick).
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Yeah - what's up with that? I thought it was my crappy mouse or something.
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options>>Advanced multitable options>>single click table activation.
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On a sidenote, I've noticed that the Full Tilt 6 max games (nl400 specifically) have really tightenened up. At least in my past few sessions. Hopefully this is just because the good players switch from Party quicker than the fish.
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Family Cruise IMO
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The funny thing is since you US guys have left Party the 25nl tables are even fishier (yes, true!). European players seem to be more aggressive and are happy to call down mid pairs, re-raise suited crap. It really is a case of make sets and get paid at the moment. Me likey.
I've been running quite well lately (minus a few bad beats).
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25nl will always be a fish-fest.
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Been on a run at the PS200 where I'm just glad to scratch out a small profit.
I don't think I've ever had to fire so dang many second barrels with air as I did tonight.
POKERSTARS GAME #6724743887: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($1/$2) - 2006/10/22 - 05:45:00 (ET)
Table 'Altair III' 6-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: caca993 ($267.45 in chips)
Seat 2: Lundlado10 ($151.05 in chips)
Seat 3: Fnord ($224.45 in chips)
Seat 4: WDG-GCC ($214.30 in chips)
Seat 5: Pudusplat ($349.95 in chips)
Fnord: posts small blind $1
WDG-GCC: posts big blind $2
peemum: sits out
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Fnord [As Ks]
Pudusplat: folds
caca993: folds
Lundlado10: raises $7 to $9
Fnord: raises $15 to $24
WDG-GCC: folds
Lundlado10: calls $15
*** FLOP *** [2d Jc 6d]
Fnord: bets $30
Lundlado10: calls $30
*** TURN *** [2d Jc 6d] [3s]
Fnord: bets $170.45 and is all-in
Lundlado10 said, "ahh"
Lundlado10 said, "u have pocket K or A ? :P"
Lundlado10: folds
Fnord said, "Both"
Fnord said, "Was it any good?"
POKERSTARS GAME #6724547407: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($1/$2) - 2006/10/22 - 04:54:36 (ET)
Table 'Ciurlionis' 6-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: Juzam ($241.05 in chips)
Seat 2: HoldEmVin ($155.55 in chips)
Seat 3: mafrit ($184.55 in chips)
Seat 4: Fnord ($202.70 in chips)
Seat 6: mr_lewicki ($47.45 in chips)
Fnord: posts small blind $1
mr_lewicki: posts big blind $2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Fnord [4s 7s]
Juzam: raises $4 to $6
HoldEmVin: folds
mafrit: folds
HoldEmVin leaves the table
Fnord: calls $5
mr_lewicki: folds
*** FLOP *** [Td 2h 4c]
Fnord: checks
Juzam: bets $10.50
Fnord: raises $19.50 to $30
Juzam: calls $19.50
*** TURN *** [Td 2h 4c] [2s]
Fnord: bets $50
mr_lewicki leaves the table
Juzam: folds
POKERSTARS GAME #6719642107: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($1/$2) - 2006/10/21 - 20:25:58 (ET)
Table 'Palatia III' 6-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: pigskinpal ($170.50 in chips)
Seat 2: JiggyUP ($208.30 in chips)
Seat 3: TLEM ($113 in chips)
Seat 4: puffchan ($379.05 in chips)
Seat 6: Fnord ($203.40 in chips)
puffchan: posts small blind $1
Fnord: posts big blind $2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Fnord [8h 6h]
pigskinpal: folds
JiggyUP: folds
TLEM: raises $4 to $6
puffchan: folds
Fnord: calls $4
*** FLOP *** [Qh 7h Ts]
Fnord: checks
TLEM: bets $8
Fnord: raises $16 to $24
TLEM: calls $16
*** TURN *** [Qh 7h Ts] [Ac]
Fnord: bets $40
TLEM: folds
POKERSTARS GAME #6723123203: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($1/$2) - 2006/10/22 - 01:15:36 (ET)
Table 'Dolios II' 6-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: katatonic1 ($220.85 in chips)
Seat 2: koolkatt2 ($190.90 in chips)
Seat 3: MegaLuck ($252.25 in chips)
Seat 4: Fnord ($205 in chips)
Seat 5: RJHP ($163.50 in chips)
Seat 6: Neema ($174.70 in chips)
koolkatt2: posts small blind $1
MegaLuck: posts big blind $2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Fnord [8c 9c]
Fnord: raises $6 to $8
RJHP: calls $8
Neema: folds
katatonic1: folds
koolkatt2: folds
MegaLuck: folds
*** FLOP *** [Tc 4h 4d]
Fnord: bets $12
RJHP: calls $12
*** TURN *** [Tc 4h 4d] [3h]
Fnord: bets $30
RJHP: folds
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I have to say VCpoker has alot of terrible terrible players on 6max.
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POKERSTARS GAME #6725301465: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($1/$2) - 2006/10/22 - 08:10:42 (ET)
Table 'Yrsa III' 6-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: Stu_Hunger ($244.15 in chips)
Seat 2: PJuntunen ($71.40 in chips)
Seat 3: snakekilla88 ($588.05 in chips)
Seat 4: Fnord ($212.50 in chips)
Seat 5: SpottyDottie ($213.35 in chips)
Seat 6: WDG-GCC ($141.45 in chips)
snakekilla88: posts small blind $1
Fnord: posts big blind $2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Fnord [2c 4c]
SpottyDottie: folds
WDG-GCC: raises $2 to $4
Stu_Hunger: folds
PJuntunen: folds
snakekilla88: calls $3
Fnord: calls $2
*** FLOP *** [7c Jc Th]
snakekilla88: checks
Fnord: checks
WDG-GCC: bets $6
snakekilla88: folds
Fnord: calls $6
*** TURN *** [7c Jc Th] [Jh]
Fnord: checks
WDG-GCC: bets $12
Fnord: raises $18 to $30
WDG-GCC: calls $18
*** RIVER *** [7c Jc Th Jh] [Tc]
Fnord: checks
WDG-GCC: checks
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Fnord: shows [2c 4c] (a flush, Jack high)
WDG-GCC: mucks hand
Fnord collected $81 from pot
WDG-GCC said, "hahahahah"
WDG-GCC said, "wowwwww"
WDG-GCC said, "you called my bet with THAT???"
Fnord Said, "Nice call sir"
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $84 | Rake $3
Board [7c Jc Th Jh Tc]
Seat 1: Stu_Hunger folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: PJuntunen (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: snakekilla88 (small blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 4: Fnord (big blind) showed [2c 4c] and won ($81) with a flush, Jack high
Seat 5: SpottyDottie folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: WDG-GCC mucked [Kh Qc]
POKERSTARS GAME #6725528266: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($1/$2) - 2006/10/22 - 08:55:40 (ET)
Table 'Callisto' 6-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: Viper_ex ($288.55 in chips)
Seat 2: taydohustler ($143.35 in chips)
Seat 4: HYALIS ($59.65 in chips)
Seat 5: TheMetetron ($204.50 in chips)
Seat 6: Fnord ($364.15 in chips)
taydohustler: posts small blind $1
HYALIS: posts big blind $2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Fnord [5d 5h]
peekon joins the table at seat #3
TheMetetron: folds
Fnord: raises $6 to $8
Viper_ex: folds
taydohustler: calls $7
HYALIS: calls $6
*** FLOP *** [Kc 7d Qd]
taydohustler: checks
HYALIS: checks
Fnord: checks
*** TURN *** [Kc 7d Qd] [3s]
taydohustler: checks
HYALIS: checks
Fnord: checks
*** RIVER *** [Kc 7d Qd 3s] [Ts]
taydohustler: checks
HYALIS: checks
Fnord: checks
*** SHOW DOWN ***
taydohustler: shows [5c Jc] (high card King)
HYALIS: mucks hand
Fnord: shows [5d 5h] (a pair of Fives)
Fnord collected $22.80 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $24 | Rake $1.20
Board [Kc 7d Qd 3s Ts]
Seat 1: Viper_ex (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: taydohustler (small blind) showed [5c Jc] and lost with high card King
Seat 4: HYALIS (big blind) mucked [8d 9c]
Seat 5: TheMetetron folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: Fnord showed [5d 5h] and won ($22.80) with a pair of Fives
POKERSTARS GAME #6725382625: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($1/$2) - 2006/10/22 - 08:27:24 (ET)
Table 'Callisto' 6-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: Viper_ex ($267.40 in chips)
Seat 2: MarkL444 ($197 in chips)
Seat 3: Bluffme82 ($271.40 in chips)
Seat 4: HYALIS ($187.80 in chips)
Seat 5: TheMetetron ($207 in chips)
Seat 6: Fnord ($209.50 in chips)
Bluffme82: posts small blind $1
HYALIS: posts big blind $2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Fnord [Qh Qd]
TheMetetron: folds
Fnord: raises $6 to $8
Viper_ex: folds
MarkL444: raises $14 to $22
Bluffme82: calls $21
HYALIS: folds
Fnord: calls $14
*** FLOP *** [Ks 7h 6s]
Bluffme82: checks
Fnord: checks
MarkL444: checks
*** TURN *** [Ks 7h 6s] [8c]
Bluffme82: checks
Fnord: checks
MarkL444: checks
*** RIVER *** [Ks 7h 6s 8c] [5d]
Bluffme82: bets $30
Fnord: folds
MarkL444: folds
Bluffme82 collected $65 from pot
Bluffme82: shows [Ac 6c] (a pair of Sixes)
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $68 | Rake $3
Board [Ks 7h 6s 8c 5d]
Seat 1: Viper_ex folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: MarkL444 (button) folded on the River
Seat 3: Bluffme82 (small blind) collected ($65)
Seat 4: HYALIS (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: TheMetetron folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: Fnord folded on the River
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Originally Posted by euphoricism
...frustrating as fuck like stars (multitabling and having to click 3+ times on a button to get it to do anything gets annoying quick).
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Yeah - what's up with that? I thought it was my crappy mouse or something. I dunno what Stars has that creates such loyalty among the FTR userbase but it certainly isn't its ease of use.
(and while I'm at it, it sucks to be typing in Aim or something and for a Stars table to pop up and whatever you're typing to suddenly appear in the chatbox. Can be rather embarrassing)
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Maybe it's just because I have played on it so much, but I love stars. I think it has the best software of any site, and it's not really close IMO.
Also about having to click a table multiple times to get it to work (only the case if the table you're clicking on isn't active--when it's your turn it automatically becomes active-- just get good at right clicking immediately before left clicking instead of being all goofy and changing to single click option or whatever (which is very interesting but I only heard of just now).
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Fnord: Was it just me or did you play some of those hands pretty badly. Younever mentioned were good and others were bad, wondering your own opinion before I express mine.
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Some of the pre-flop calls were loose, but I felt I had good control over my opponents.
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Anyone else played much on the iPoker network? It's just almost laughable.
Very loose-passive.
Of course the software sucks and it's a bit tooo turbo even on the non-turbo tables (sorry, it auto-folded my flopped straight while I was sizing my bet... garf!).
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Bodog is up there
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Wikipedia is the best thing ever. Anyone in the world can write anything they want about any subject. So you know you are getting the best possible information.
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I have to say VCpoker has alot of terrible terrible players on 6max.
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sitting deep at 50nl with those guys was fun once upon a time.
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WDG-GCC said, "hahahahah"
WDG-GCC said, "wowwwww"
WDG-GCC said, "you called my bet with THAT???"
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lol. He miniraises at 200nl and answers with that.
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I'm still loyal to prima. I can comfortably play the 10NL/20NL/50NL tables there (depending on my BR). The recent software upgrade (or maybe not so recent, hadn't played in quite a while.. but now the bank account demanded it) was an improvement too.
I have to note though that the only other site I played at was titan, which software-wise sucked (played for the free poker office.. never even bothered to clear the actual bonus). And everyone there is weak-tight, which is just as easily beatable as prima's loose tables, but requires a different approach.
This is all 6max. I've never in my life played FR.
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