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Armlock
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05-28-2007, 02:33 PM
Post subject: Beating the game and Moving Up
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I see a lot of posts and interviews by pros and other players saying that they are beating the cash game or limit that they are playing at. I have been a SNG grinder and have beating them for 20% ROI on Stars up to $22 limit, but I have been wanting to branch out into more NL cash. I have started playing NL25 2-3 tabling making about 6-10 an hour over 20000 some hands between full ring and 6-max.
I am curious as to everybodys thoughts on these to questions?
1. What bb/100 or avg. per hour would be considered beating a 6-max or full ring game?
2. If bankroll is not a factor, how long should you be beating game to move up (number of hands or months)?
I know many pro's suggest about 30 buyins for a level, but if that is the case I shoud be playing at least 2/4 NL.
I'm sure other might have similiar questions and any suggestions would be appreciated.
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griffey24
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05-28-2007, 02:40 PM
Post subject: Re: Beating the game and Moving Up
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Straight Flush
Join Date: Sep 2006
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Originally Posted by Armlock
I know many pro's suggest about 30 buyins for a level, but if that is the case I shoud be playing at least 2/4 NL.
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I think this suggestion is based on the assumption that you got to 2/4 and built your bankroll by grinding it out at $25NL and up. I don't think jumping into cash, even if you're rolled for it, at 400NL is a great idea.
But since you are rolled, I'd say you are probably ok with moving up levels faster than someone who didn't have a roll.
I only have about 20k hands at 200NL (which really isn't all that much) but its goin well, so I'm reaching a bit and playing 400NL (reaching = 1 table 400nl, and the rest still 200NL). There's no harm in reaching higher, and if you have trouble just dropping back down.
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Originally Posted by Jay-Z
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Da GOAT
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Straight Flush
Join Date: Feb 2006
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start at 50NL then, id advise you get adjusted to cash before up play any higher
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Jman: every time the action is to you, it's an opportunity for you to make the perfect play.
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Genitruc
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Straight Flush
Join Date: Dec 2005
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If you can beat games at anything around or above 3-5 ptbb/100 there s no reason to not move up if you re rolled properly (30 buyins is good until nl400 and up - I'd like to have more starting at nl400)
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when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?
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4-of-a-Kind
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Originally Posted by Genitruc
If you can beat games at anything around or above 3-5 ptbb/100 there s no reason to not move up if you re rolled properly (30 buyins is good until nl400 and up - I'd like to have more starting at nl400)
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what's the general consensus for # of hands required?
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benny999
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i think bb/100 is dependant on too many factors. it's more important to be able to figure out if you are +ev in a game just by watching or playing in it, and if losing x buyins won't have much effect.
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sauce123
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1. 3 bb/100 or more over 100k or more hands is a pretty standard winrate and should determine if ur +ev in a game
2. 30 bi is enough for up to nl 200, id have 50+ for 400nl-1knl
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