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wufwugy
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06-24-2008, 11:49 PM
Post subject: barrel a blank river?
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i bought in for half a stack. villain is about 24/16/5 over 80. he looks like he may call a little too much, based on stats tho.
i think barreling a blank river is correct since if he calls turn he can have picked up a number of draws, but i dont like the ace flopped since that may make it more likely hes calling down with one. i dunno so i ask
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (5 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)
MP ($101.50)
Button ($121.05)
SB ($29.85)
BB ($105.75)
Hero ($76.05)
Preflop: Hero is UTG with K , T .
Hero raises to $4, 1 fold, Button calls $4, 2 folds.
Flop: ($9.50) A , 3 , Q (2 players)
Hero bets $7, Button calls $7.
Turn: ($23.50) T (2 players)
Hero bets $15
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Fnord
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I'm inclined to just check/fold the turn. Harder to blow people off hands with a shorter stack (less leverage.)
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silu73
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2-barrelling becomes so much harder without a full stack.
C/fold turn.
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wufwugy
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Originally Posted by silu73
2-barrelling becomes so much harder without a full stack.
C/fold turn.
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why is it harder?
if its because non-full buyins get no credit then yes if thats true, but if its because there's not enough money behind, well there is here.
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wufwugy
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Originally Posted by Fnord
I'm inclined to just check/fold the turn. Harder to blow people off hands with a shorter stack (less leverage.)
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i both agree and disagree. there's a certain amount of leverage gained from a shorter stack in that villain thinks its less likely he can bluff me since i dont have much left behind. also, doesn't apply much here tho since stacks are too large, with a shorter stack if i bet such and such and will have like 1/3 pot left on river he's gotta be thinking that thats about as close to as good as going in on river at least.
im not sure if i like the double tho. i didn't feel like getting floated
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Galapogos
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Originally Posted by wufwugy
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Originally Posted by silu73
2-barrelling becomes so much harder without a full stack.
C/fold turn.
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why is it harder?
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You have no implied threat. Fnord got an awesome thread started about it a year or two ago.
Also, why barrel the river if you're hoping he's on only draws? You beat draws on a blank river. But best to just c/f the turn like the others said.
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Originally Posted by sauce123
I don't get why you insist on stacking off with like jack high all the time.
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guitarizt
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I wouldn't bet the river with a fullstack or a shorter stack. I don't think they fold near enough here.
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Fnord
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Originally Posted by Galapogos
You have less implied threat.
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Anyway, this is one of those spots where I just bow down to position and let him have it. You can't contest every pot you get into.
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jyms
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I rarely give shortys the respect of the FD. If they are playing sooted trash and playing short I will take my money all day. Even though here you are not really short.
You also posted that he has a 5AF and has called two streets. I find this is a slow play a ton when aggros are calling and not betting the draws
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freechus9
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The only hands that'll call are hands that beat you on the flop, and everything else will raise.
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