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Silly String
Old 08-08-2006, 08:44 PM     Post subject: Bad Call? #1 (permalink)  
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No real reads, sat down this orbit.

Hold'em NL (£0.15/£0.25)
Seat 5 is the button.
Seat 1: 10tonn (£68.12 in chips)
Seat 2: Sindad (£22.86 in chips)
Seat 3: MacMan (£20 in chips)
Seat 4: HERO (£33.25 in chips)
Seat 5: Wil210513 (£9.39 in chips)
Seat 6: Walter014 (£4.73 in chips)
Walter014: posts small blind £0.15
10tonn: posts big blind £0.25
MacMan: posts big blind £0.25
----- HOLE CARDS -----
dealt to HERO [Jd Js]
Sindad: folds
MacMan: checks
HERO: raises to £1
Wil210513: calls £1
Walter014: folds
10tonn: calls £0.75
MacMan: calls £0.75
----- FLOP ----- [4c 2d 8c]
10tonn: checks
MacMan: checks
HERO: bets £4
Wil210513: calls £4
10tonn: folds
MacMan: raises to £19 and is all-in
HERO: calls £15
Wil210513: is all-in £4.39

----- TURN ----- [4c 2d 8c][Ah]
----- RIVER ----- [4c 2d 8c Ah][6h]
----- SHOW DOWN -----
MacMan: shows [4h 4d] (Three of a kind, Fours, Ace high)
HERO: shows [Jd Js] (A Pair of Jacks, Ace high)
Wil210513: shows [Kc Kd] (A Pair of Kings, Ace high)
MacMan collects £20.17 from Side pot #1
MacMan collects £27.87 from Main pot
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Old 08-09-2006, 01:52 PM #2 (permalink)  
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Would anyone else make this call, or was it horrible?
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Old 08-09-2006, 02:07 PM #3 (permalink)  
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I would fold unless I have a read that opp is bad and overvaluates his hands.

You showed strenght preflop and bet into four opps on a low flop. Any decent player puts you on an overpair. Villain Checked and then raised all-in after your potsized bet and a call. This is almost allways a very good hand.
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Old 08-09-2006, 02:22 PM #4 (permalink)  
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meh I'm not sure about this one. I think I fold but you see draws alot of the time if you call these mad pushes.

Wait I know. This is a fold because MacMan knows that the shorty is gonna go all the way with him. So that means that he is very unlikely to push a draw here. So therefore you can deduce that he has a made hand and fold.

Yep this is a fold.
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Old 08-09-2006, 03:18 PM #5 (permalink)  
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Thanks guys. . . God I hate giving away money.
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Old 08-09-2006, 03:24 PM #6 (permalink)  
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meh I'm not sure about this one. I think I fold but you see draws alot of the time if you call these mad pushes.

Wait I know. This is a fold because MacMan knows that the shorty is gonna go all the way with him. So that means that he is very unlikely to push a draw here. So therefore you can deduce that he has a made hand and fold.

Yep this is a fold.
How many times have you pushed and then looked up and go "shit, there is a shortstack in this hand." The higher the limit the more Id agree with this thinking, but down here I really dont know if thats a strong enough reason to fold. At $25nl, Ive seen people bluff into dry sidepots when there is no way to get around a showdown, etc. I still probably would fold though but I think its pretty close either way without any reads. We've shown a lot of strength, its a multiway pot and we are getting played back at, opponents at these levels do pay some attention to how much strength youve shown. I dont think a call is horrible, not neither is a fold here, again, without reads Id lean towards a fold.
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Old 08-09-2006, 05:16 PM #7 (permalink)  
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Then how about this one, stupid push? I feel like maybe I'm tilting lately and trying to hit too many homeruns.

Hold'em NL (£0.15/£0.25)
Table "Chilliwack" Seat 2 is the button.
Seat 1: 2003UB313 (£17.40 in chips)
Seat 2: Del_god (£7.25 in chips)
Seat 3: HERO (£27.35 in chips)
Seat 4: .Exe (£39.45 in chips)
Seat 5: Jake_18 (£8.10 in chips)
Seat 6: Bigmorg27 (£30.86 in chips)
HERO: posts small blind £0.15
.Exe: posts big blind £0.25
----- HOLE CARDS -----
dealt to HERO [Qc Qs]
Jake_18: raises to £8.10 and is all-in Shortstack gets no credit when I hold QQ
Bigmorg27: calls £8.10 Does the smooth call mean marginal hand, or monster inviting more callers?
2003UB313: folds
Del_god: folds
HERO: raises to £27.35 and is all-in
.Exe: folds
Bigmorg27: calls £19.25
----- FLOP ----- [Kh Kc 9h]
----- TURN ----- [Kh Kc 9h][As]
----- RIVER ----- [Kh Kc 9h As][6d]


----- SHOW DOWN -----
HERO: shows [Qc Qs] (Two Pairs, Kings and Queens, Ace high)
Jake_18: shows [6s 6c] (A Full House, Sixes full of Kings)
Bigmorg27: shows [Ad Ah] (A Full House, Aces full of Kings)
Bigmorg27 collects £36.70 from Side pot #1
Bigmorg27 collects £23.35 from Main pot
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Old 08-09-2006, 05:32 PM #8 (permalink)  
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That means a marginal hand. Easy push to try and get HU.
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