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Old 03-08-2007, 02:16 AM     Post subject: Awkward spot with QQ bvb. #1 (permalink)  
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 First a little bit of precursor. Villain is completely unknown.



POKERSTARS GAME #8789475122: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($1/$2) - 2007/03/07 - 19:35:45 (ET)
Table 'Ernestina II' 6-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: SilentSupra ($197 in chips)
Seat 2: quimboavida ($230.95 in chips)
Seat 3: soros ($195 in chips)
Seat 4: makort ($445.50 in chips)
Seat 5: Renton555 ($346.40 in chips)
Renton555: posts small blind $1
SilentSupra: posts big blind $2

*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Renton555 [Kd Kc]

quimboavida: calls $2
soros: folds
makort: folds
Renton555: raises $10 to $12
SilentSupra: calls $10
quimboavida: folds

*** FLOP *** [Jd Ac 3d]

Renton555: checks
SilentSupra: bets $18
Renton555: calls $18

*** TURN *** [Jd Ac 3d] [Qs]

Renton555: checks
SilentSupra: checks

*** RIVER *** [Jd Ac 3d Qs] [Qh]

Renton555: checks
SilentSupra: bets $44
Renton555: calls $44

*** SHOW DOWN ***

SilentSupra: shows [Td 5h] (a pair of Queens)
Renton555: shows [Kd Kc] (two pair, Kings and Queens)
Renton555 collected $148 from pot


By something like 3 orbits later, this guy is obviously loose and agg, his stats were materializing at like 28/22.


POKERSTARS GAME #8789617650: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($1/$2) - 2007/03/07 - 19:44:23 (ET)
Table 'Ernestina II' 6-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: SilentSupra ($200 in chips)
Seat 2: quimboavida ($250.15 in chips)
Seat 3: soros ($187 in chips)
Seat 4: makort ($462.65 in chips)
Seat 5: Renton555 ($412.40 in chips)
Renton555: posts small blind $1
SilentSupra: posts big blind $2

*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Renton555 [Qh Qs]

rcame5 joins the table at seat #6
quimboavida: folds
soros: folds
makort: folds
Renton555: raises $6 to $8
SilentSupra: calls $6

*** FLOP *** [Kd 6d 2h]

Renton555: bets $12
SilentSupra: raises $18 to $30
Renton555: calls $18

*** TURN *** [Kd 6d 2h] [7c]

Renton555: checks
SilentSupra: bets $52
Renton555:


I've been playing fairly nitty, something like 20/15 and making no major moves.
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Old 03-08-2007, 03:02 AM #2 (permalink)  
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 Is the river on one really a call?

On two I think this is a fold, He didn't reraise on hand one so I'm not ready to say his reraising range is the suck.
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 villain could be making a play here; but if you were going to call the turn $55 I would rather have you lead out here again. There is a chance he has a lone flush draw so if you call turn you'd have to call any non-diamond river.


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After seeing that first hand I think I'd just call down.
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Old 03-08-2007, 08:44 PM #6 (permalink)  
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I hate spots like this (who doesn't). I'll fold flop, but then I am weak tight. But you're OOP, and if you c-call all the way you have to face another river bet, meaning you might have to risk your entire stack to find out what he has. I will try to wait for at least TPGK (i.e. spots where he has to use both hole cards to beat you) in order to adopt this line.

If you call flop I think the best play is lead turn again for like $50 which is 2/3 pot. Villain didn't know you're scared of the King yet. If he calls he's drawing. If he raises you can fold.
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Old 03-08-2007, 09:52 PM #7 (permalink)  
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 @ ej and bbs: leading turns with unsure hands is bad vs lagtards.
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 In the first hand he checked behind on the turn when he was full of shit. This hand he doesn't check behind and you showed earlier that you are capable of calling down light. I think I fold.


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