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El_duderino
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07-01-2007, 06:53 PM
Post subject: AQs and a nice looking flop
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Just sat down 5 mins ago, so no reads on villain. What's the best play here?
$100 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Sunday, July 01, 07:53:58 ET 2007
Table Table 125993 (Real Money)
Seat 4 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 4: johnny3857 ( $117 USD )
Seat 5: Villain ( $163.66 USD )
Seat 6: scholes__18 ( $155.38 USD )
Seat 2: Hero ( $107.88 USD )
Seat 3: simonshy ( $62.04 USD )
Seat 1: underestimate ( $100.40 USD )
Villain posts small blind [$0.50 USD].
scholes__18 posts big blind [$1 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Hero [ Ah Qh ]
underestimate folds.
Hero raises [$4 USD]
simonshy calls [$4 USD]
johnny3857 folds.
All_Rigged calls [$3.50 USD]
scholes__18 folds.
** Dealing Flop ** [ Kh, Th, 3s ]
Villain checks.
Hero bets [$11 USD]
simonshy folds.
Villain raises [$33.50 USD]
Hero ?
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overflow
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As Men the Master would say "All you can eat baby"
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Ash256
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Originally Posted by overflow
As Men the Master would say "All you can eat baby"
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That's actually Scotty Nyguen. But i agree all in is the right move here. You'd be surprised how much you see him fold.
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sauce123
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insta insta insta insta shove
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I got more flava than fruitstripe gum
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Galapogos
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I always shove here, even though I don't think I've completed a flush semi-bluff on the flop in a month.
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Originally Posted by sauce123
I don't get why you insist on stacking off with like jack high all the time.
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are you guys doing the same thing with the following changes?
a) A high flush draw only (no +3 outs for straight)
b) J-K high flush draw only
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Galapogos
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Originally Posted by |~|ypermegachi
are you guys doing the same thing with the following changes?
a) A high flush draw only (no +3 outs for straight)
b) J-K high flush draw only
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*drumroll* ................................. it depends.
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Originally Posted by sauce123
I don't get why you insist on stacking off with like jack high all the time.
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Ash256
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Originally Posted by |~|ypermegachi
are you guys doing the same thing with the following changes?
a) A high flush draw only (no +3 outs for straight)
b) J-K high flush draw only
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Depends whether or not I have an unlit cigarette in my mouth.
Nah, seriously, in your two examples I often end up shoving, but that's really because I have no clue how to play bricked turns (They often end up with me making a retarded semibluff even if it's obvious they won't fold), although it's only the first hand I end up autoshoving because we're so close to coinflip territory so I don't really give a shit.
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overflow
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Originally Posted by Massimo
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Originally Posted by overflow
As Men the Master would say "All you can eat baby"
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That's actually Scotty Nyguen. But i agree all in is the right move here. You'd be surprised how much you see him fold. |
Men Nyugen says it too, couple times in the 2005 USPC in A.C. and the WPT tournament that was on yesterday. He might have copped it from Scotty though.
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Fnord
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Can't go too wrong shoving here. Doubt you'll get a fold though.
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Well I shoved, and villain called with KT. Of course I spiked a J on the river and he went on and on about how bad my shove was...
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givememyleg
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WHO YA GONNA CALL?!??
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Originally Posted by overflow
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Originally Posted by Massimo
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Originally Posted by overflow
As Men the Master would say "All you can eat baby"
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That's actually Scotty Nyguen. But i agree all in is the right move here. You'd be surprised how much you see him fold. |
Men Nyugen says it too, couple times in the 2005 USPC in A.C. and the WPT tournament that was on yesterday. He might have copped it from Scotty though. |
Scotty says baby all the time, but Men trademarked the AYCEB, if I'm not mistaken.
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well, considering you are 55% (him) 45% (you) against K10, the shove is EV+ big time considering the pot and a little fold equity...
its a shove when you can still be a coinflip with top 2 
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overflow
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Tell him he's just as big a donk for calling a raise behind an opener with a caller OOP with KT.
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Originally Posted by overflow
Tell him he's just as big a donk for calling a raise behind an opener with a caller OOP with KT.
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...or don't
coaching fish and telling fish you arent a fish are both -EV
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gabe: Ive dropped almost 100k in the past 35 days.
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overflow
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Tongue was firmly in cheek on that one PE
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