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Ragnar4
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06-09-2008, 12:49 AM
Post subject: AQs Call Guut?
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PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (5 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)
UTG ($9.80)
Hero ($15.20)
Button ($9.60)
SB ($5.50)
BB ($9)
Preflop: Hero is MP with A , Q.
1 fold, Hero raises to $0.4, 2 folds, BB calls $0.30.
Flop: ($0.85) 6, 2 , 9 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $0.55, BB raises to $1.6, Hero raises to $5.2, BB calls $3.60.
Turn: ($11.25) 7 (2 players)
BB bets $3.4 (All-In), Hero calls $3.40.
River: ($0) 5 (2 players, 1 all-in)
Final Pot: $18.05
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The older I get, the more I start wondering; Just what in the hell is going on here? 
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mixchange
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you're price in here, you have to call turn. Might as well shove flop if he only has $8 left.
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thizzSantaCruz
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Bet flop a little bigger, make it like .65 and shove over his raise. You are a favorite over almost everything. When you brick the turn your equity drops a lot. Get it in when your the most ahead, and you always have fold equity.
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Flopping quads and boats like its my job
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Marshall28
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super standard.
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Ragnar4
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that's probably the best thing you've ever said to me marshall!
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The older I get, the more I start wondering; Just what in the hell is going on here?
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Marshall28
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when someone who is critical of u sees u do something right, isnt it that much more redeeming?
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Ragnar4
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Ah-Men!
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The older I get, the more I start wondering; Just what in the hell is going on here?
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Ragnar4
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by thizzSantaCruz
Bet flop a little bigger, make it like .65 and shove over his raise. You are a favorite over almost everything. When you brick the turn your equity drops a lot. Get it in when your the most ahead, and you always have fold equity.
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You're right about betting bigger. But this guy had been raising weakness like 90% of the time. Also every time I bet 2/3 of the pot he was reading it as weakness.... I actually was trying to induce the raise. I didn't spend a lot of time considering, but I felt like .65 was too much...
I'm probably wheedling a lot about very little, but it was a moral victory.
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The older I get, the more I start wondering; Just what in the hell is going on here?
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Marshall28
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by thizzSantaCruz
Bet flop a little bigger, make it like .65 and shove over his raise. You are a favorite over almost everything. When you brick the turn your equity drops a lot. Get it in when your the most ahead, and you always have fold equity.
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this isnt necessarily true. when i have a hand like this i assume my equity is stable across streets and usually aim to make the play that creates the most FE. sometimes a jam gets called a lot lighter than if u were to apply the hammer. like yeah, u are a favorite over a pair, but u are only gonna win the pot like a little over half the time when called by a pair ... if u can make them call a turn bet and fold to a river shove u gain a lot more by winning the turn bet 100% of the time.
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bjsaust
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Isnt this like the opposite of stable equity?
Your equity drastically reduces (or increases) on each street doesnt it?
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Just playing to improve.
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Marshall28
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yeah obv thats true, but what im doing is just on the flop assuming im gonna win the pot outright ~50% of the time by making the best hand, so instead of just jamming it in and getting called frequently by a bluff catcher that assumes im on a draw, what ill do instead is determine based on my opponent's tendencies and recent history, which line is going to produce the most fold equity over the course of 3-5th street. since u r rewarded much more for winning the pot 100% of the time when he folds rather than jsut the ~50% of the time u end up making the best hand. obviously if i improve on the turn i might change my plan, but w/ a hand like this my goal is generally to make the dude fold when i have ace high.
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