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bjsaust
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04-28-2009, 10:56 PM
Post subject: AQo v's very wide 3bettor (100nl)
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Villain is a 21/19 TAG over 150 hands, but with 15% 3-bet. Not only that, but thats comprised of 35% 3bet from the BB (thats only 20 chances, but its a fair pattern).
Heres the line I took:
No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (6 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com
BB ($100)
UTG ($122.75)
MP ($93.70)
Hero (CO) ($100)
Button ($86.85)
SB ($125.50)
Preflop: Hero is CO with Q , A
2 folds, Hero bets $3.50, 2 folds, BB raises $10, Hero calls $7.50
Flop: ($22.50) 5 , Q, 7 (2 players)
BB bets $13, Hero raises $33
Obviously a lot of different ways I could play PF and flop, wondering what people think would be best.
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Alexos
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this is fine, 4betting pre is fine, flatting flop is fine
tough to say whats best w/out knowing much about how he plays postflop..
If he loves to go crazy postflop maybe id just flat here, or raise a little less
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nutsinho
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good but raise a lil less
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bjsaust
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Thanks guys, makes a lot of sense. Something like $28?
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Alexos
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28-29 sounds good
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bikes
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Am I the only one who thinks 40$ is good here to make it look like we're commited with a draw?
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griffey24
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Originally Posted by Bbickes
Am I the only one who thinks 40$ is good here to make it look like we're commited with a draw?
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If you look committed, that means he can't re-bluff you. We want to raise a size that makes it look like we're stealing or making a move, and that he still has fold equity if he comes over top with AK or 68 or something. Last thing we want is for him to fold those hands.
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Originally Posted by Jay-Z
I'm a couple hands down and I'm tryin' to get back
I gave the other grip, I lost a flip for five stacks
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bikes
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Originally Posted by griffey24
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Originally Posted by Bbickes
Am I the only one who thinks 40$ is good here to make it look like we're commited with a draw?
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If you look committed, that means he can't re-bluff you. We want to raise a size that makes it look like we're stealing or making a move, and that he still has fold equity if he comes over top with AK or 68 or something. Last thing we want is for him to fold those hands. |
Ahh, gotcha. My line of thinking is was that we don't want him to fold his pair ever, but yes this seems much better.
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griffey24
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Originally Posted by Bbickes
Ahh, gotcha. My line of thinking is was that we don't want him to fold his pair ever
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There's no way anyone should ever be folding an overpair here in a 3bet pot, regardless of bet sizing. If we're beat with AQ here so beit, but we wanna make the most from worse hands along the way.
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Originally Posted by Jay-Z
I'm a couple hands down and I'm tryin' to get back
I gave the other grip, I lost a flip for five stacks
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