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Old 02-02-2008, 05:05 AM     Post subject: AQ Top Two , Butchered home game hand. #1 (permalink)  
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7 handed. 25c/50c blinds.
Stacks are rough sizes
UTG $20
UTG+1 $20
MP $20
CO $20
BU $100
SB $40
(ME BB) $100.

Hole cards AQspades.
UTG FOLD UTG+1 FOLD MP FOLD CO Call 50c BU raises $2 sb folds BB Calls $1.50 and doesn't raise (like a idiot) CO calls $1.50
Pot $6
Flop
Aclubs Queen hearts 3clubs
BB (ME) checks , CO bets $3 , BU calls $3 , BB (ME) raises to $15 , CO folds , BU calls $12
Pot $45
Turn 7clubs
BB (ME) checks , BU bets $20 , BB (ME) call $20
Pot $85
River Jhearts
BB (ME) checks , BU shoves for about $50 more.

BU is decent laggy player. I THINK worse 2 pairs are in his range here and total bluffs along with sets/flushes.
I hate myself for this hand. I just finished reading PNL , and my first mistake is not re-raising his BU raise pre to give me a target SPR. I intentionally put extra money on the table to have this laggy player covered , and now on this river I'm regretting it.

Im wondering how i get away from this? Is Bet/fold the turn a good option?

Even if i reraise pre to say $7 and CO folds and BU calls and lead out almost pot the turn pot would be about the same and i would still be in a crappy situation.
I hate myself for trying to play deep stack poker , why didn't i stay home and play a gazillion sng's?

Thanks for any advice on this hand because it's really bothering me.
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Old 02-02-2008, 06:20 AM #2 (permalink)  
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 there are just too many errors in this hand to correct in a single sentence.
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there are just too many errors in this hand to correct in a single sentence.
well maybe we coulda used that sentence to help with one of them?
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Old 02-02-2008, 06:45 AM #4 (permalink)  
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and comments / help on postflop AS PLAYED is mainly what I'm looking for. I know the FIRST and BIGGEST mistake is not 3betting this since im OOP and want to get a good spr
& is c/rai bad on the flop even if im like 100% sure BU will bet if checked to after raising pre.
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there are just too many errors in this hand to correct in a single sentence.
well maybe we coulda used that sentence to help with one of them?
ok 3 bet pre. on second thoughts i like the c/r on flop. then b/c turn. i mean either way i think you got it in with the best hand at least 80% of the time. the only thing really beating you is a set.
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Old 02-02-2008, 12:34 PM     Post subject: Re: AQ Top Two , Butchered home game hand. #6 (permalink)  
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Ok that was really hard to read so I tidied it up a bit.

7 handed. 25c/50c blinds.

Stacks are rough sizes
UTG $20
UTG+1 $20
MP $20
CO $20
BU $100
SB $40
(ME BB) $100.

Hole cards A Q .

Preflop

UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, MP folds, CO Calls 50c, BU raises $2, sb folds, BB Calls $1.50, CO calls $1.50.

Pot $6

Flop A Q 3

BB (ME) checks , CO bets $3 , BU calls $3 , BB (ME) raises to $15 , CO folds , BU calls $12

Pot $45

Turn A Q 3 7

BB (ME) checks , BU bets $20 , BB (ME) call $20

Pot $85

River A Q 3 7 J

BB (ME) checks , BU shoves for about $50 more.
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Old 02-02-2008, 12:54 PM #7 (permalink)  
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The flop action on such a multiway drawy board makes it pretty unlikely he flopped a monster. Would he shove over your raise with a flush draw?

I think he either has AJ thats not sure if its good on the flop or turn but then decides it is on the river. Or he has the flush. I dont think he plays AJ this way all of the time though but there are so many more combinations of AJ than there are 45s-JTs that he should have the weaker 2 pair almost as often as the flush even though Axs isn't possible.

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 50.000% 50.00% 00.00% 4 0.00 { AdQd }
Hand 1: 50.000% 50.00% 00.00% 4 0.00 { JcTc, Tc9c, 9c8c, 8c7c, 7c6c, 6c5c, AdJc, AhJc, AhJd, AsJc, AsJd, AsJh }


Also since hes a LAG hes going to show up with some other random missed draw or whatever that just wants to rep the flush some small percentage of the time (5-10%?).

It actually looks like we are still a favorite here, or at the very least a coin toss and we are getting pretty huge pot odds. So this seems like a pretty easy call even though my first instinct was puke.
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