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Old 04-07-2007, 05:06 PM     Post subject: AQ in reraised pots? #1 (permalink)  
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Maybe a little introduction first. I posted here a while back, I played 6-max on Party and then stopped with poker for six months. Now I want to get serious again, get better and move up, who doesn't. So hopefully I'll be posting a lot of hands in this forum.

I've been playing again for 2 weeks now and light 3-betting preflop seems to be the new thing now. I used to fold AQ preflop because it plays difficult in reraised pots, but now I don't know. I don't think folding AQ pre is good with all the light 3-betting going on. What do you typically do preflop, fold, reraise, call? Also even if you hit the flop you're in a big pot with a possibly 2nd best hand. Here are two hands.

I don't really like my lines here because I look like a passive calling station, but how do you play them?


1. I joined this table 2 orbits ago, villain had allready 3-bet one of my buttonraises, I folded.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $1 BB (5 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

BB ($236.16)
UTG ($24)
MP ($65.10)
Hero ($121)
SB ($99.50)

Preflop: Hero is Button with :qd, :as.
1 fold, MP calls $1, Hero raises to $5, SB raises to $14, 1 fold, MP folds, Hero calls $9.

Flop: ($30) :9s, :9d, :ac (2 players)
SB bets $17, Hero calls $17.

Turn: ($64) :2d (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks.

River: ($64) :3c (2 players)
SB bets $35, Hero calls $35.

Final Pot: $134


2. Villain in this hand is 22/18, pretty aggro and had just joined this table. We played before but I don't remember anything special.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $1 BB (4 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

Button ($185.60)
Hero ($171.75)
BB ($101.50)
UTG ($99.50)

Preflop: Hero is SB with :qs, :ad.
2 folds, Hero raises to $4, BB raises to $14, Hero calls $10.

Flop: ($28) :6d, :2c, :qc (2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $21.5, Hero calls $21.50.

Turn: ($71) :2s (2 players)
Hero checks, BB checks.

River: ($71) :6c (2 players)
Hero checks, BB calls $66 (All-In), Hero calls $66.

Final Pot: $203
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Old 04-07-2007, 05:29 PM #2 (permalink)  
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if you have any respect for villans i may fold both. I mean I don't expect anyone to show up with bluffs in threebet pots.
Of course, I play both the same.
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Old 04-07-2007, 05:45 PM #3 (permalink)  
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Why are we check/call check, check in hand 2?

I checkraise the flop, and check-fold the river if I don't. You let all kinds of hands get there free.
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Old 04-07-2007, 05:50 PM #4 (permalink)  
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Why are we check/call check, check in hand 2?

I checkraise the flop, and check-fold the river if I don't. You let all kinds of hands get there free.
Raising folds out all hand we beat? I guess I'm more afraid of teh big pocket pairs then a flush draw in a reraised pot.

Edit : Only card I really don't want to see is a K.
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Old 04-07-2007, 05:54 PM #5 (permalink)  
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Hand one I might bet turn when checked to, folding to a river bet if he calls turn and checking behind if he lets me.

Hand two I might bet into him on flop and fold to a raise. I don't mind your line much though. You are really only worried about AA/KK/QQ which is only part of his range.
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Old 04-07-2007, 05:58 PM #6 (permalink)  
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if you have any respect for villans i may fold both. I mean I don't expect anyone to show up with bluffs in threebet pots.
Of course, I play both the same.
Fold prefold, right? I didn't know villains well enough to respect or not respect them. Doesn't folding out all of our range up to AQ make us very expoitable? I mean I raise 22+, A2s +, A7o +, KT+, suited connectors, gappers,... on the button.
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Old 04-07-2007, 06:10 PM #7 (permalink)  
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Oh oops hand 2 is easy call, blind battle didn't realize.
In pos on hand one i tend not to fold AQ to a small three bet.
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Old 04-07-2007, 07:15 PM #8 (permalink)  
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These hands look good to me if villains are 3-betting light.
when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?
 
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Old 04-07-2007, 07:29 PM #9 (permalink)  
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Old 04-07-2007, 07:45 PM #10 (permalink)  
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Hand 1 is played perfectly. Hand 2 you should probably c/r or lead the turn, but you aren't going to fold your hand here.
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