|
griffey24
|
03-02-2010, 11:52 PM
Post subject: 3/6 - AQ - light value raise on flop...and gets 3bet
|
#1 (permalink)
|
|
Straight Flush
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Toronto'ish
Posts: 4,611
|
|
-villain is 20/15/2.8 but opens utg 26%
-villain is capable of bluffing, and has caught me bluff raising flops before, but not this session
-I feel like raising a hand like AQ on this board is good, cause its an AK2 board, and the raise here reps waay beyond nothing (maybe 222, and sometimes A2)
-should this be a spot where I'm happy about my hand if I get called, but just dump it when I'm 3bet?
-Or should I be happy that I got 3bet, since a lot of his strong hands (AAA, AK) might just flat OOP and let me burn myself
$3/$6 No Limit Holdem
5 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com
Stacks:
UTG ($699.45)
Hero (CO) ($708.10)
BTN ($621)
SB ($603)
BB ($993.65)
Pre-Flop: ($9, 5 players) Hero is CO  
UTG raises to $18, Hero calls $18, 3 folds
Flop:    ($45, 2 players)
UTG bets $30, Hero raises to $85, UTG raises to $168, Hero calls $83
Turn:  ($381, 2 players)
UTG bets $144, Hero ?
|
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by Jay-Z
I'm a couple hands down and I'm tryin' to get back
I gave the other grip, I lost a flip for five stacks
|
|
Play for FREE and practice your game at...
Join the FTR Poker Forum to disable these banners and start posting!
|
|
Irisheyes
|
|
4-of-a-Kind
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: over there
Posts: 3,708
|
|
Yeah I'm just gonna defer to the yeti on this one even though I have no idea wtf is going on.
|
|
|
|
pocketfours
|
|
Moderator
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Lighting sweet moneys on fire.
Posts: 2,166
|
|
LOL, you put yourself in these spots and then you ask -US- what to do??? Doing anything but calling down would not make much sense to me.
|
|
|
|
Micro2Macro
|
|
Moderator
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: http://three-pair.com/
Posts: 4,465
|
|
rather not mess with utg opener but ignoring that bit..cib or cib+ a few more bb's seems like the best play on flop(?)
:S
at least it looks more fos than calling (or does it?) I feel like calling almost over reps our hand a bit and gives us more credit for trapping him (assuming we flat called AA/KK/AK/22 pre..) whereas a cib can be seen as a cheap re-bluff since this is just a leveling war after all.
i'd prefer if this were co vs bu or something but I dunno, just throwing that out there. at least in later position he'd have more garbage to re-bluff you with on the flop.
|
|
|
|
bikes
|
|
a hot damn mess
Administrator
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 2,468
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Irisheyes
Yeah I'm just gonna defer to the yeti on this one even though I have no idea wtf is going on.
|
This one. I'm probably calling down this as played.
|
|
|
|
griffey24
|
|
Straight Flush
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Toronto'ish
Posts: 4,611
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Micro2Macro
rather not mess with utg opener but ignoring that bit..cib or cib+ a few more bb's seems like the best play on flop(?)
|
I don't think there's any value in cib here. The board is too dry and people are rarely crazy enough to jam over a 4bet on this board with air or something. There's not even a FD or anything.
|
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by Jay-Z
I'm a couple hands down and I'm tryin' to get back
I gave the other grip, I lost a flip for five stacks
|
|
|
meeloche
|
|
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 2,131
|
|
I would never raise this flop with any hand. Vs multitabling taggs your expecting them to just monkey it in cause your not repping anything. I feel like the majority of regs at this limit just wont do that and your always gonna be in a shitty spot if they continue to your flop raise. There is no chance your doing this enough for them to adjust how you want them to.
|
|
|
|
griffey24
|
|
Straight Flush
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Toronto'ish
Posts: 4,611
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by meeloche
your expecting them to just monkey it in cause your not repping anything.
|
This wasn't exactly what I was expecting/hoping for. I was more expecting him to think I'm not repping anything, and then call, c/c at least one more street with a hand like AJ/AT or something.
Though I'm confused now that he 3bets.
|
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by Jay-Z
I'm a couple hands down and I'm tryin' to get back
I gave the other grip, I lost a flip for five stacks
|
|
|
IowaSkinsFan
|
|
Straight Flush
Join Date: Oct 2004
Posts: 7,148
|
|
Flat flop obvvvvv
|
|
|
|
pocketfours
|
|
Moderator
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Lighting sweet moneys on fire.
Posts: 2,166
|
|
lol this is the funniest hand in a while
|
|
|
|
tstrout
|
|
3-of-a-Kind
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 68
|
|
You're on a collision course with going broke with a one-pair hand. Calling the flop to keep the pot smaller would've been more appropriate. Then you can see what he does on the turn. By raising the flop, you are showing more strength that your hand has and letting your opponent know he can bust you with large turn and river bets. He's going to get you all-in because of your raise. Best you can do with that hand is bluff-catch and raising the flop foils that plan.
BTW, notice the small turn bet and what it does? He keeps you around and makes a river shove no longer an overbet. You're getting suckered here big time.
|
|
|
English
Deutsch
Español
Français
Italiano
Nederlands
Pусский
Svenska
06-02-2012, 08:10 PM Merge Network 6.0 Looks to Retain Current Player Base
Linear Mode
