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AQ facing weird turn aggression, twice.
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Carroters
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03-17-2010, 07:35 PM
Post subject: AQ facing weird turn aggression, twice.
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1. Villain is 23/18, 60% c-bet over 50 hands, and has folded to 4/4 3-bets already. I haven't played a pot with him post flop yet. My image os likely semi LAG and fairly aggro/reggy.
Preflop: AQ is doing well here and I have position, given his tendency so far to fold to 3 bets, I feel like there's no value from 3 betting in this spot and that my hand is too good to just turn into a bluff.
Flop: When he checks this flop it seems kind of strange, I'm not sure what to make of his range at this point but getting raised didn't seem like fun and i don't think there's value from a whole lot more. I can't see him c/c a draw here much either.
Turn. Now whe he checks again I feel like this is an excellent card to get value from stuff like TT etc and that I have the best hand almost always.
Until that is, he raises. Here is my reasoning...If he has air he rarely just c/fs the flop so there can't be too much of that in his range. he probably never turns marginal hands like TT, JJ into a bluff. But then I'd also expect him to bet a K like all the time on the flop and there are very few combos of monster hands here, given we block QQ. I guess it's possible he's reatdredly checking the flop with a K to try to induce then feels he must auto check trips b/c he sucks on the turn but idk, still not sure.
Do we have to stick some air in here and make a peel given how little he actually reps?
No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com
UTG ($70.10)
MP ($50)
Hero (CO) ($50.50)
Button ($57.75)
SB ($41.80)
BB ($46.05)
Preflop: Hero is CO with A , Q
1 fold, MP bets $1.50, Hero calls $1.50, 3 folds
Flop: ($3.75) 7 , K , Q (2 players)
MP checks, Hero checks
Turn: ($3.75) K (2 players)
MP checks, Hero bets $2.80, MP raises $7.50, Hero?
2. Villain is 19/14 over 75 hands and has been 3 betting 7.5%, folds to c-bets 63%, I haven't really played much with him post flop.
Preflop: Std
Flop: I c-bet here because there's a ton of stuff that he'll just fold to our utg range and we can turn equity or barrel good cards enough for betting flop to be pretty std imo.
Turn: I make my sizing such that mid PPs etc will not feel too uncomfrotable peeling again, I hardly ever exepct to be raised here, but it happens. Again, I just don't see what he's turning into a bluff here. This one seems like an easier fold that the 1st one since I have an easier time putting 87s 97s 76s in his range here, and I don't see why weaker hands SD value type hands that call the flop would raise the turn instead of just flatting if they thought I was FOS.
No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com
SB ($50.25)
BB ($50)
Hero (UTG) ($73.90)
MP ($51.75)
CO ($79.60)
Button ($61.85)
Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q , A
Hero bets $2, 2 folds, Button calls $2, 2 folds
Flop: ($4.75) 7 , 7 , 4 (2 players)
Hero bets $2.65, Button calls $2.65
Turn: ($10.05) Q (2 players)
Hero bets $6.20, Button raises $15.50, Hero?
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Numbr2intheWorld
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I would fold both pretty easily. You can try and dissect their plays all you want but its just highly unlikely your opponent is bluffing in either spot.
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Vi-Zer0Skill
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Reagan's Kid
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1. id call the turn c/r
2. id cbet the flop bigger, like 3.5 or 4. this is a spot where your opp will much more likely play passively facing a large bet from UTG. im not thinking of folding to the turn raise
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Vi-Zer0Skill
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Reagan's Kid
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for hand two i can see BTN raising Qxdd or other draws he may have floated the flop with. id call a non diamond/3/8 river
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