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11-18-2008, 02:15 AM
Post subject: AQ 3bet pot OOP river decision
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Straight Flush
Join Date: May 2006
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villain is 25/22 over 160 hands, not that aggro, and calls 3bets 30%.
i dont think this board is very good for him to float the flop on so i dont think im folding out anything that im not already ahead of by betting the turn. thoughts on the river shove?
its like $185 for villain to call
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UTG ($208.35)
Button ($262.95)
SB ($202.50)
Hero (BB) ($437.10)
Preflop: Hero is BB with A , Q
UTG calls $2, Button raises to $9, 1 fold, Hero raises to $32, 1 fold, Button calls $23
Flop: ($67) 6 , Q, K (3 players)
Hero bets $48, Button calls $48
Turn: ($163) 2 (3 players)
Hero checks, Button checks
River: ($163) 3 (4 players)
Hero bets $357.10 (All-In)
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nutsinho
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ive been staring at this for 5 minutes trying to figure out if this is for value or as a bluff.
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ive been staring at this for 5 minutes trying to figure out if this is for value or as a bluff.
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i think the way i played it its for thin value vs hero TT/JJ that was hoping i would give up after the flop.
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Straight Flush
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i mean, i'd been 3 betting a decent amount, but i wouldnt expect AK to fold here.
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L_Clan_Sup3rMaN
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hmmm i dont see wat kinda worse hands wud call her....JJ/QJ certainly wud fold, only things callin u prlly have u beat....id like C/C here, giving him a chance to bet/bluff something worse
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meeloche
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1010, JJ will call the flop maybe but definitely not the river shove. My standard is to check the flop and get some sort of value bet in on the turn or river. I don't completely hate the flop bet if villain is a thinking player.
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nutsinho
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4-of-a-Kind
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oh and your flop bet is too big
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thizzSantaCruz
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Its worth noting river shove effectively is only just above pot size becuase of stack sizes but still I think its bad. You ARE turning your hand into a bluff by betting this big without reads that are worth mentioning.
To expand on what nuts said you can afford to bet smaller on a board when our range is stronger than our opponent's. On this board your range absolutely dominates his, so you can cbet like 40 I think.
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Flopping quads and boats like its my job
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minSim
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I don't think worse call, imo you're overrepping your hand more then underrepping. I would most likely check the flop myself.
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griffey24
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Straight Flush
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I agree with the other posts so far, that as played you're over-repping your hand.
You're trying to make your hand look bluffy, but the bluffiest line is probably bet flop, and shove turn. At least then villain can put you on JT, or like AJ/JT straight draw or some hand like that shoving.
bet/check/bet line looks a lot less bluffy.
As played, I probably bet like $70 to get called worse.
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