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Old 01-25-2009, 04:52 AM     Post subject: anything to do besides c/f river? #1 (permalink)  
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villain is 47/16.5/4 over 140 hands. standard fish, loves to min3bet & minraise, no real history. The only hands i can see him betting this river with that i beat are random Ax hands that made 2 pair. I think he bets smaller with these hands, but i have nothing to base this on. Standard river c/f?

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Hero (CO) ($395.75)
Button ($652.35)
SB ($194.30)
BB ($400)
UTG ($237.80)
MP ($214.85)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 5, 5
UTG calls $2, MP raises to $10, Hero calls $10, Button calls $10, 2 folds, UTG calls $8

Flop: ($43) 5, 10, 7 (4 players)
UTG checks, MP checks, Hero bets $32, Button calls $32, UTG calls $32, 1 fold

Turn: ($139) 9 (3 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $91, Button calls $91, 1 fold

River: ($321) A (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $178, Hero folds
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Old 01-25-2009, 05:14 AM #2 (permalink)  
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id bet much more on turn and shove the river. as played id still definitely bet the river
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Old 01-25-2009, 11:24 AM #3 (permalink)  
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+1 on turn bet being too small

I wouldn't know what to do on the river though
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yeah pretty easy bet
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Old 01-25-2009, 03:01 PM #5 (permalink)  
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didn't really expect these comments. what hands is he calling 3 streets with that were ahead of by the river?

also note we're 200bbs deep here.
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id bet much more on turn and shove the river. as played id still definitely bet the river
Yah this for sure!

Given the two callers on the flop, I'd definitely bet almost pot on the turn and an easy river shove.
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c/f a set there is kind of gross.
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didn't really expect these comments. what hands is he calling 3 streets with that were ahead of by the river?

also note we're 200bbs deep here.
can someone answer this because i'm genuinely confused.
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didn't really expect these comments. what hands is he calling 3 streets with that were ahead of by the river?

also note we're 200bbs deep here.
can someone answer this because i'm genuinely confused.

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villain is 47/16.5/4 over 140 hands. standard fish,
River is played pretty easily if you bet almost pot on turn. He's a fish, and he can have lotsa pairs+insiders, pairs+FD's etc. Given that its multiway I think this turn bet really has to be bigger. You're betting into two people, your hand is going to look strong no matter what sizing you use.
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Old 01-26-2009, 05:21 AM #11 (permalink)  
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guess you guys are right. i thought everything got there (straights/flushes) and the only thing he would have on the river i was ahead of was 2pr. There are just so many pair + straight draw and 2 pairs that play the flop/turn the same and i didnt realize it.

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 66.434% 66.43% 00.00% 95 0.00 { 5d5s }
Hand 1: 33.566% 33.57% 00.00% 48 0.00 { TT-77, ATs, KcQc, KcJc, KTs, Kc9c, Kc8c, Kc6c, QcJc, QTs, JTs, J8s, T8s+, 98s, 86s+, ATo, KTo, QTo, JTo, J8o, T8o+, 98o, 86o+ }


even taking out some of the TP type hands:
equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 60.656% 60.66% 00.00% 74 0.00 { 5d5s }
Hand 1: 39.344% 39.34% 00.00% 48 0.00 { TT-77, ATs, KcQc, KcJc, KTs, Kc9c, Kc8c, Kc6c, QcJc, QTs, J8s, T8s+, 98s, 86s+, ATo, KTo, J8o, T8o+, 98o, 86o+ }
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i know this has been said but bet way more on the turn
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