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Silly String
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02-02-2007, 06:46 PM
Post subject: Anyone see BB/100 drop since Neteller quit US?
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Full House
Join Date: Jul 2005
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I have seen my BB/100 drop significantly lately. Has anyone else noticed this? I don't know if it is correlated with the US exit of Neteller, or if I am just suffering a serious downswing.
Are the games tightening up?
FWIW, I play 50NL at PStars and have carried a 5BB/100 win rate for over 100K hands. Currently I am - BB/100 for my last 20K hands. Problem or just varience?
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Miffed22001
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Straight Flush
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25nl on party is the scariest thing i have ever seen nowadays. 4 shortys from germany followed by 5 10/5's from sweden
Party is the new b2b
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4-of-a-Kind
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I really cant think of a reason why your bb/100 at 50NL would drop down due to netellers exit from the US market. Mine (albeit at 25NL) has never been higher - though this may be because I'm taking a significantly nittier approach to the game than I had previously.
A) Haven't a fairly large section of the slight winners and break even players cashed everything out? I'd say this is especially true about the "somewhat good" players that used to nutcamp the 25/50NL
B) The fish are having a little more trouble to deposit -- but many credit card options are still available to many people. And fish rarely if ever cash out, so I dont think the lack of neteller withdrawal options are swaying them.
C) European players, known for their propensity for gambling, are probably overrepresented in the market at the moment. You may not be playing at the same time as the bulk of them due to timezone differences, though.
I think we're left with a lot of very good players in the higherstakes say 200nl+ and a lot of very, very poor players populating 100NL and below.
I really, honestly, dont see any reason for 25, 50 to tighten up significantly... well.. ever?
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IowaSkinsFan
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Join Date: Oct 2004
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50NL should still suck, in fact, even the regs suck pretty bad.
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Straight
Join Date: May 2006
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Originally Posted by Miffed22001
25nl on party is the scariest thing i have ever seen nowadays. 4 shortys from germany followed by 5 10/5's from sweden
Party is the new b2b |
Nice to know we're not missing out on anything then 
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jyms
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by Miffed22001
25nl on party is the scariest thing i have ever seen nowadays. 4 shortys from germany followed by 5 10/5's from sweden
Party is the new b2b |
See, now I thought it was just me. I have had battles with Empire and party bonuses. Trying to clear these have been lessons in futility. I think even Full tilt was looser in comparison.
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bearcats05
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i have noticed the tables getting nitty-er at full tilt. theres still fish though and the nits are easy to take advantage of.
20k could easily just be variance.
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Fnord
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I got creamed for over $600 at the 100NL short game this week. Although I hadn't played in 2-3 weeks and just seemed out-of-step with my hand reads.
Overall the games were less than amazing and the TAggs are cutting into my profits by picking good spots to fight back. Then throw in a couple coolers and a suck-out....
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Silly String
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Full House
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I guess it is just bad fortune right now for me. Keep plugging right.
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Harry
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Full House
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zenbitz
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Actually this should be very easy to test. If lack of neteller = lack of new money (bad money), then the number of players shoud be done. Sat prime time PDT FTP has 34K players... is that typical? Stars post party crash was about 90K.
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elipsesjeff
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Originally Posted by Fnord
I got creamed for over $600 at the 100NL short game this week. Although I hadn't played in 2-3 weeks and just seemed out-of-step with my hand reads.
Overall the games were less than amazing and the TAggs are cutting into my profits by picking good spots to fight back. Then throw in a couple coolers and a suck-out....
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The tables as a whole go through periods of good and bad now at Stars. I can usually get in 3k hands on premium tables in a day, but only at 1200 hand sessions until the tables dry up.
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