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Anyone like a small 4-bet on the river here or a call?

  
 
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Old 08-21-2007, 10:02 AM     Post subject: Anyone like a small 4-bet on the river here or a call? #1 (permalink)  
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Villain is an unkown here. 25NL


MP1 raises to 0.85
Hero calls from bb with

Flop (1.85)
Hero bets 1.5
Villain calls

Turn (4.85)
Hero checks (going for a check-raise)
Villain checks

River (4.85)
Hero bets 3
Villain raises to 6
Hero.....

Anyone like a small 4bet to about 12 dollars here? I think the turn and river put a lot of 2 pair hands out there...I also think with a made flush most villains either raise flop or bet turn correct? If he pushes over my 4bet I think I have to fold but a villain at this level is usually not capable of doing this. Anyone like?
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Old 08-21-2007, 11:31 AM #2 (permalink)  
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first of all going for a checkraise on the turn is really bad here. hes not betting a lot of stuff but will call lots of bets here. also you just dont want to give a free card obv.
river i think i would push it would be weird for a flopped flush to just check behind the turn and this looks a lot like some 2 pair like QJ. i guess jacks might play it like this too but thats a small part of his range overall i think you are pretty good here and he will call a shove with lots of worse hands like QJ.
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Old 08-21-2007, 07:59 PM #3 (permalink)  
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^Pretty much exactly what he said. Although im leaning for a raise, i don't think a call is bad. So many donks play their flushes like this, but i feel like were losing value from our set since their is probably a lot more in his range. So a 4 bet seems ok by me.
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Old 08-21-2007, 09:00 PM #4 (permalink)  
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in small stakes no one is going to do the betting for you.

river is an easy call, and if you were to raise it'd be a 3-bet not a 4-bet.
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Old 08-21-2007, 09:38 PM #5 (permalink)  

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I think checking the turn here hoping villain will bet is very -ev. Villain has shown little aggression and if the has the most obvious hand (flush draw) giving a free card is really bad.

That being said I think as akward as villain played hand I just call river.
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Old 08-21-2007, 10:20 PM #6 (permalink)  
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You're thinking about maknig a 3-bet not a 4-bet and you should just call
 
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Old 08-22-2007, 05:33 AM #7 (permalink)  
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bet the turn. call the river.
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Old 08-22-2007, 03:10 PM #8 (permalink)  
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Call the river. AhTo is in his range as well as a small flopped flush. You're not looking too good if the pot gets large on this river.
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Old 08-22-2007, 03:16 PM #9 (permalink)  
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