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mixchange
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11-12-2007, 11:16 PM
Post subject: Anyone like a ak bluffshove here?
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4-of-a-Kind
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I've finally been 3betting and understanding a little more why I'm doing it. After villain calls my 3bet I firmly put him on a PP. I figured I'd bet the flop and if he hit the set he'd raise, if not most likely fold. I bet too quickly and meant to bet more like $27 at the time, but later more seemed better. Calling with the mid pp, even he's ahead, doesn't make any sense to me. I'd think villain only calls flop with a strong hand. But, I've seen people stack off with dogshit a bunch today, so who knows...
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (6 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)
BB ($111.05)
UTG ($100)
MP ($97.50)
Hero ($149.45)
Button ($98.50)
SB ($139.50)
Preflop: Hero is CO with K , A .
UTG raises to $4, MP calls $4, Hero raises to $16, 3 folds, UTG folds, MP calls $12.
Flop: ($37.50) 3 , T , 8 (2 players)
MP checks, Hero bets $20, MP calls $20.
Turn: ($77.50) J (2 players)
MP checks, Hero...?
what I think would be optimal?
-20 3bet PF instead. Thats a nice pot sitting there already.
-$33 on flop as played, screams KK/AA and probably folds JJ. Maybe he calls without prior 3bet of QQ, but I doubt it.
- shove turn. As played, then I can then think of my flop bet as a "great value bet for turn steal"
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silu73
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Full House
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Preflop raise is too small. Flop bet is too small. A PSB would put MP all in anyway so its either that or check/fold which sounds dreadful in this spot but this board hits so many calling hands that I lean towards the weak thing to do and check behind on turn.
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Genitruc
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Straight Flush
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ya bet turn big
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when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?
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IowaSkinsFan
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Straight Flush
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the J is such a bad card though, just check behind and bet river if he checks to you and you dont hit easy poker. Who reads hands at 100nl anyways.
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DaNutsInYoEye
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4-of-a-Kind
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by IowaSkinsFan
Who reads hands at 100nl anyways.
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so how much were you planning on charging for coaching lessons?
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TheXianti: (Triptanes) why are you not a thinking person?
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Numbr2intheWorld
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Moderator
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Shove if he'll fold a combo draw
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Genitruc
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Straight Flush
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re : "who reads hands anyways at X limit"
it s funny how many ppl say this about levels they've moved past
i mean srsly, the # of times i ll read something on 2p2 along the lines of "he probably has a weak hand but this is only 2-4 / 3-6 / 5-10 so he won t fold obv"
lol it s just wrong
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when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?
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