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Miffed22001
Old 08-08-2005, 01:58 PM     Post subject: Any different heads up? #1 (permalink)  
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 Game #924440975 (Level IV, Game #10) - 30/60 No Limit Texas Hold'em (1-on-1) - 2005/08/07-18:40:02.5 (CST)
Table "Lofanga" ($20 tournament) -- Seat 7 is the button
Seat 4: Miffed22001 (830.00 in chips)
Seat 7: d8man (1,170.00 in chips)
d8man : Post Small Blind (30)
Miffed22001: Post Big Blind (60)
Dealt to Miffed22001 [ 4s ]
Dealt to Miffed22001 [ Td ]
d8man : Call (30)
Miffed22001: Check
*** FLOP *** : [ 2s Th 4c ]
Miffed22001: Check
d8man : Bet (60)
Miffed22001: Call (60)
*** TURN *** : [ 2s Th 4c ] [ Ks ]
Miffed22001: Check
d8man : Check
*** RIVER *** : [ 2s Th 4c Ks ] [ Jc ]
Miffed22001: Bet (710)
d8man : Call (710)
*** SUMMARY ***
Pot: 1,660 | Board: [ 2s Th 4c Ks Jc ]
Miffed22001 lost 830 (showed hand) [ 4s Td ] (two pair, tens and fours)
d8man bet 830, collected 1,660, net +830 (showed hand) [ Qh 9s ] (a straight, nine to king)

Ok. Let me get this straight (no pun intended) I thought i was doing the trapping here. He bet it out at me. thats fine. then an overcard came and he checked so i put him on the turn on either a pair of tens or kings (is that right or did i read it wrong?) I check the turn expecting him to bet into me again, where i would have reraised (possibly all in) instead he checks so i push the river fully expecting to be winning.
Did i just get unlucky?
Did i play it badly, should i have bet the turn regardless (this is a great example of why i hate check raising)
Or was it the right play for a heads up situation where im looking to trap only to get truly stung.
Also, ironically enough i played an sng earlier in the day and got exactly the same hand form the bb and bet it out only to run into a runner runner KJ two pair and bust out (the deja vu feeling was real nasty!). Truly 10 4 is my worst hand.

(p.s i would truly play this differently at a cash table, by betting out on the flop and hitting the turn real hard, but i thought i could get this guy all in here and win)
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Old 08-08-2005, 02:46 PM #2 (permalink)  
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 I can't really fault your plan to the river, it's reasonable to put him on a ten here.

But on the river, you go away from your read. No one is calling that bet with a T. If he had a K, why would he bet the flop, and why check the turn, it doesn't add up (unless he's made bigger two pair+). Bet about half, 2/3 PS on the river, consider folding if he comes heavy.
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Old 08-08-2005, 02:53 PM #3 (permalink)  
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 He may even fold a weak K on that board to an AI. The key here is you made a bet that couldn't be called unless you were beat.
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Old 08-08-2005, 02:56 PM #4 (permalink)  
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 i think i was just gobsmacked that i misread his actions sooo badly. I think i thought he had tried to bluff the flop (he did this often when i checked it to him) so when the king came i checked hoping he would either bluff that card or had caught it and would trap check behind me. I didnt think (and should have) that he wanted a free card behind me. lol now it all makes sense. First time in a while ive out thought myself. I gave him far too much credit.
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Old 08-08-2005, 03:45 PM #5 (permalink)  
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Its a good example of how being OOP can cost you.
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Old 08-08-2005, 04:00 PM #6 (permalink)  
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 damn right eric even heads up.
and i thought id learnt my lesson about position.
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