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euphoricism
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05-30-2007, 12:41 AM
Post subject: Another river conundrum from eupho.
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unknown villain, 100bb deep.
THIRTYPOINT - Posts small blind $0.25
WANKOLNIKOV - Posts big blind $0.50
*** POCKET CARDS ***
Dealt to EUPHOLOGI [7 6]
DZIZZLE - Raises $2 to $2
TOLEDOBULL - Calls $2
EUPHOLOGI - Calls $2
THIRTYPOINT - Folds
WANKOLNIKOV - Folds
*** FLOP *** [8 6 5 ]
DZIZZLE - Checks
TOLEDOBULL - Bets $3.50
EUPHOLOGI - Raises $10 to $10
DZIZZLE - Folds
TOLEDOBULL - Calls $6.50
*** TURN *** [8c 6s 5h] [Q]
TOLEDOBULL - Checks
EUPHOLOGI - Checks
*** RIVER *** [8c 6s 5h Qs] [9]
TOLEDOBULL - Bets $10
EUPHOLOGI - Raises $30 to $30
TOLEDOBULL - All-In(Raise) $36.45 to $46.45
EUPHOLOGI - All-In $14.85
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Fnord
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*opps*
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euphoricism
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what exactly does oops mean here? Oops, fold preflop? Oops you got screwed? Oops, stupid river raise?
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Fnord
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Originally Posted by euphoricism
Oops, stupid river raise?
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*shrug* Looks like you ran into a hand.
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jyms
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Actually, he said OPPS
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mixchange
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If all you have a is one carder straight, I would just call.
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Numbr2intheWorld
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Call river, don't raise it. I also like a big turn bet since TP or mid pair better kicker will probably fold and the same straight draw may also.
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bet turn. call river.
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ChrisTheFish
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I'd play same but just call river.
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Da GOAT
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by Massimo
I also like a big turn bet since TP or mid pair better kicker will probably fold and the same straight draw may also.
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thank you, bet turn. great card IMO to fire again
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Jman: every time the action is to you, it's an opportunity for you to make the perfect play.
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Reidak
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I think this is a hand like As8s quite often given the raise on the river. Just flat call, you raise accomplishes little. Your just building a pot for the split. If he has top or two then he folds given the 4 straight and flush on river. He calls with a flush. He calls with a split. So what does the raise really do? maximizes his return on the flush
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Toadstool
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yeah, dont raise the river - he is never calling this without at least a straight, and your just losing more money when he has a higher str8 or a flush.
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bigspenda73
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so this is never a set that missed a c/r on the turn?
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id raise a lot more on flop and shove turn usually here
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I got more flava than fruitstripe gum
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zenbitz
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by sauce123
id raise a lot more on flop and shove turn usually here
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You so crazy!
I guess you got backdoored, but I am not sure a raise on river is bad. It looks terrible because he puts the rest in, so clearly he has TJ (gutshot!) or A8s
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