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Old 10-13-2005, 08:03 AM     Post subject: Another of many hands I need help with #1 (permalink)  

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$25 NL Texas Hold'em - Thursday, September 29, 03:01:00 EDT 2005
Table Table 37257 (6 max) (Real Money)
Seat 2 is the button
Total number of players : 5
Seat 3: Brett4Favre ( $39.15 )
Seat 5: grrbrr ( $55.10 )
Seat 6: baroncoduroy ( $33.20 )
Seat 2: black_manta ( $21.83 )
Seat 4: RJKronicles ( $9.85 )
Brett4Favre posts small blind [$0.10].
RJKronicles posts big blind [$0.25].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to baroncoduroy [ Ad Kc ]
grrbrr folds.
baroncoduroy raises [$1].
black_manta calls [$1].
Brett4Favre calls [$0.90].
RJKronicles folds.
** Dealing Flop ** [ 4c, Ac, 2c ]
Brett4Favre checks.
baroncoduroy checks.
black_manta bets [$2].
Brett4Favre folds.
baroncoduroy raises [$5].
black_manta calls [$3].
** Dealing Turn ** [ Jd ]
baroncoduroy bets [$6].
black_manta calls [$6].
** Dealing River ** [ 8s ]

What's my line and why? Mistakes so far? Do I know where I am at?
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Old 10-13-2005, 08:44 AM #2 (permalink)  
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if you're going to raise then fuckin raise, none of that 3 more bullshit. raise the flop to at least 7. and bet more on the turn like 14
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Old 10-13-2005, 04:23 PM #3 (permalink)  
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The pot is $5 with his raise included, so you should probably raise him the pot here. $2 into $5 seems kinda weak anyway so he might fold, which is fine
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Old 10-13-2005, 06:10 PM #4 (permalink)  
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don't get cute w/ TPTK. it doesn't work that way. bet like you have a hand, and if he refuses to believe and calls on a draw, then you get the best of it over the long haul. and you like that.

preflop: you did raise 4BB, so it's not horrible. meh.

flop: this is a bad one for your defense of callers: you have a situation where you're fighting both flush and straight draw possibilities. so bet MUCH harder than minraise. in fact, don't minraise unless it's the only way to get more money in the pot on a made hand. seriously, don't do it.

turn: the draw card didn't come, and if you want to win the hand, you are best off raising very hard here. pot sized. do it.

river: draws are busted now, and you made it through the forest w/o getting drawn out on. unless he two paired A/bitch kicker. in that case, you would have found this out much earlier by betting harder at any point in the hand.
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Old 10-14-2005, 03:18 AM #5 (permalink)  
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Do you guys think that in 25NL its better to check/call the river here or bet again and hope he calls with shitty aces?
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Old 10-14-2005, 03:25 AM #6 (permalink)  
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Do you guys think that in 25NL its better to check/call the river here or bet again and hope he calls with shitty aces?
I'd drop another $6. Given the horrible calls random players like to make, I'm a big fan of bet/call and bet/fold river lines.

As played, I think the hero did a shitty job of getting the most money in with the best of it.
 
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Old 10-14-2005, 04:13 AM #7 (permalink)  
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Raise more like the people said before. Bet the river what you bet on the turn.

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Old 10-14-2005, 06:35 AM #8 (permalink)  

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So, trying not to be biased by the results of the hand, I shouldn't have been worried by the bike straight and 3 flush at the flop because my pfr should have handled that?
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Old 10-14-2005, 03:22 PM #9 (permalink)  
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preflop is fine
on the flop raise him bigger! at least the pot
beware here of a reraise (id drop tp like its 72) or the cold call
after that you want to see the showdown for as cheap as possible as your hand is very weak but you are holding the king of clubs so you still have a good draw.
for me the key here is to keep showdown as cheap as possible without loooking too weak and bluffable so put money into the pot, but not a lot. Unless of course you want to hit the turn hard as if you HAVE the nuts here but im not a fan of such a play.
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