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Irisheyes
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04-21-2007, 06:30 AM
Post subject: Another difficult river spot
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4-of-a-Kind
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Had a super sick horrible session tonight. Anyways here's a tough decision from it.
Villan hasn't been at the table that long. Seems unremarkable, too loose, not super spwey though. 45/12/1.7 over 100 hands.
Stacks:
me (But): $800
villan (BB): $530
SB: $50
I open raise K  J  to $16 on the button, SB and BB both call.
Flop comes: J 4  6  [pot: $48]
SB shorty minbets, Villan calls and I whack it up to $36 with my top pair.
Both players call (SB is all in).
Turn is T [$155]
check, check
River is K [$155]
checked again and I bet $110. Villan raises to $300 total. Hero??
$190 to call, wtf do I do?
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meeloche
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This is why I hate 2 pair. All I can see is a slow rolled set. 44 or 66. I guess JJ and 1010 is possible but I think he'd 3 bet a buton raise preflop with those hands or at least I would. Runner runner straight seems unlikely. I can't put him on KK cause he would have 3 bet that preflop and I can't think he'd check the turn. even with 44 66 why is he checking the turn? Would he really bluff with a player all in? So I attempted to answer this post but by the end I can't put him on a hand! lol i'm just as lost as you and I guess I pay it off and guess that he has some kind of weaker two pair combo if he's that loose. Wish I could be more helpfull.
Just curious did you pay him off and if you did what did he have?
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IowaSkinsFan
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even though i dont know what ur beating dont lay it down.
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Irisheyes
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Originally Posted by meeloche
This is why I hate 2 pair. All I can see is a slow rolled set. 44 or 66. I guess JJ and 1010 is possible but I think he'd 3 bet a buton raise preflop with those hands or at least I would. Runner runner straight seems unlikely. I can't put him on KK cause he would have 3 bet that preflop and I can't think he'd check the turn. even with 44 66 why is he checking the turn? Would he really bluff with a player all in? So I attempted to answer this post but by the end I can't put him on a hand! lol i'm just as lost as you and I guess I pay it off and guess that he has some kind of weaker two pair combo if he's that loose. Wish I could be more helpfull.
Just curious did you pay him off and if you did what did he have?
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lol no worries mate. Good effort. Results later.
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IowaSkinsFan
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Wait nvm your beating a good amount, K6, JT, 64 being retarded, a stupid bluff, whateva.
You can't fold this.
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benny999
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i'd call that, but not feel great about it since you say he doesn't seem spewy and is passive.
timing on the flop and river might help.
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Irisheyes
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Originally Posted by benny999
timing on the flop and river might help.
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no idea sorry
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phantom_lord
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I'd call. Party cause I'd be confused about what the hell he has.
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silu73
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Not quite sure about this one but against an opponent as described I cannot really lay it down. But often when I have a bad session and I'm c/raised on the river I'd fold only because of his total AF. Players like that don't get tricky without trips+.
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gabe
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call, make anote on him
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Numbr2intheWorld
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I usually call and don't even think about this one. So many two pairs he could have here, even AK. I wouldn't even be surprised if i saw a bluff. People like this usually don't understand the concepts of a dry pot.
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Irisheyes
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Right cool. I called and was shown 66. Looking back over it now and looking at peoples posts I don't even see whats so difficult about it anymore. I guess it was just frustration.
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Irisheyes
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thanks for comments btw
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IowaSkinsFan
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You were probably just like "great he could easily have me beat"
but then again you can easily be beating him. That's why u had the sick feeling.
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