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Old 07-31-2006, 04:59 AM     Post subject: Another AK flopped top 2 #1 (permalink)  
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$50 NL Texas Hold'em - Monday, July 31, 00:55:31 ET 2006
Table Table 109803 (Real Money)
Seat 4 is the button
Total number of players : 5
Seat 2: rocko336 ( $58.30 )
Seat 3: LuckBox__ ( $119.65 )
Seat 4: AATrain01 ( $52.75 )
Seat 6: JLMAXWELL21 ( $47.18 )
Seat 1: Jayberrius ( $47.70 )
JLMAXWELL21 posts small blind [$0.25].
Jayberrius posts big blind [$0.50].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to AATrain01 [ Ad Ks ]
rocko336 calls [$0.50].
LuckBox__ folds.
>You have options at Table 108071 Table!.
rlyons21 has joined the table.
>You have options at Table 108042 Table!.
AATrain01 raises [$2].
JLMAXWELL21 folds.
Jayberrius calls [$1.50].
rocko336 folds.
** Dealing Flop ** [ 6c, Kd, Ac ]
Jayberrius bets [$4].
AATrain01 raises [$12].
>You have options at Table 107958 Table!.
Jayberrius calls [$8].
** Dealing Turn ** [ Jc ]
Jayberrius checks.
AATrain01 bets [$15].
>You have options at Table 107958 Table!.
Jayberrius calls [$15].
** Dealing River ** [ 7h ]
>You have options at Table 107958 Table!.
>You have options at Table 108042 Table!.
Jayberrius is all-In [$18.70]
>You have options at Table 107958 Table!.
AATrain01 calls [$18.70].
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Old 07-31-2006, 05:23 AM #2 (permalink)  
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wat iv learend so far is that with top two you want to get chips in and get chips in fast

3 bet the flop is wat I would do here.


also does anyon here consider raising preflop?
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Old 07-31-2006, 05:25 AM #3 (permalink)  
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wat iv learend so far is that with top two you want to get chips in and get chips in fast

3 bet the flop is wat I would do here.


also does anyon here consider raising preflop?

ummmmm.....i did raise pf, and i had no chance to 3bet, cause i raised and he capped the betting by calling
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Old 07-31-2006, 05:30 AM #4 (permalink)  
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wat iv learend so far is that with top two you want to get chips in and get chips in fast

3 bet the flop is wat I would do here.


also does anyon here consider raising preflop?

ummmmm.....i did raise pf, and i had no chance to 3bet, cause i raised and he capped the betting by calling
WOW i butchered the hand. thought u were the other guy.
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Old 07-31-2006, 05:32 AM #5 (permalink)  
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raise a tad more on the flop so you can put him all in with a PSB on the turn.
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Old 07-31-2006, 06:46 AM #6 (permalink)  
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Hmmm, I'm tempted to check the turn. If you're going to bet the turn I think I might just shove. A normal bet leaves for akward stack sizes on the river. Your line is ok I guess, I assume you got shown the flush. River call is standard given pot odds fyi.
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Old 07-31-2006, 02:26 PM #7 (permalink)  
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BB ($47.70)
UTG ($58.30)
MP ($119.65)
Hero ($52.75)
SB ($47.18)

Preflop: Hero is Button with A, K. SB posts a blind of $0.25.
UTG calls $0.50, 1 fold, Hero raises to $2, 1 fold, BB calls $1.50, UTG folds.

Flop: ($4.75) 6, K, A (2 players)
BB bets $4, Hero raises to $12, BB calls $8.

Turn: ($28.75) J (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $15, BB calls $15.

River: ($58.75) 7 (2 players)
BB is all-in [$18.70], Hero calls $18.70.

Final Pot: $77.45

I dont really think we should be betting this turn, especially when it leaves us such a small bet on the river. Checking behind could induce a bluff from hands that would have folded to our bet on the turn. Either way I think we are probably paying off a flush so inducing a bluff and/or representing less strength with our own hand should get more value out of this.

This line for villain, leading into PFRer, calling a raise, check/calling when the flush hits and then leading the river is almost always a flush; however without reads I dont think we can really fold that river as he could be getting tricky with a lot of things, but Id be surprised to win there often. Do you have any reads?
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Old 07-31-2006, 03:41 PM #8 (permalink)  
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have to agree with checking the turn, especially if you arent going to be folding the river anyways. it allows a weaker ace to bet at you, or any hand to rep the flush, since you appeared to be afraid of it.
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Old 07-31-2006, 04:38 PM #9 (permalink)  
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66 might play the same way too. It's hard to see a decent, thinking player not having you beat here. Did you have any notes on Jayberrius?
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