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stoltzy

09-12-2005, 03:26 AM Post subject: am i over playing my kings

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saw pocket kings vs pockets ace twice in one night jsut got lucky on one of them
should i have reraised?
seen aces with the big $3 reraise?
not sent myself all in on the flop?
advice needed
im joobjoobs

***** Hand History for Game 2696175392 *****
0/0 Texas Hold'em Game Table (NL) - Sun Sep 11 22:13:50 EDT 2005
Table Table 36774 (6 max) (Real Money) -- Seat 5 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 1: pitty555 ( $24.75)
Seat 2: bhorseman007 ( $8.50)
Seat 3: toddeus ( $15.59)
Seat 4: jonm1842 ( $10.59)
Seat 5: RichRose ( $24.42)
Seat 6: joobjoobs ( $10.19)
joobjoobs posts small blind (0.10)
pitty555 posts big blind (0.25)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to joobjoobs [ Ks, Kc ]
bhorseman007 calls (0.25)
toddeus folds.
jonm1842 raises (3) to 3
RichRose calls (3)
joobjoobs calls (2.90)
pitty555 folds.
bhorseman007 folds.
** Dealing Flop ** : [ Td, 4c, 9c ]
joobjoobs bets (7.19)
joobjoobs is all-In.
jonm1842 raises (7.59) to 7.59
jonm1842 is all-In.
RichRose folds.
** Dealing Turn ** : [ 4h ]
** Dealing River ** : [ Th ]
Creating Main Pot with $22.73 with joobjoobs
Creating Side Pot 1 with $0.40 with jonm1842
** Summary **
Main Pot: $22.73 | Side Pot 1: $0.40 | Rake: $1.15
Board: [ Td 4c 9c 4h Th ]
pitty555 balance $24.50, lost $0.25 (folded)
bhorseman007 balance $8.25, lost $0.25 (folded)
toddeus balance $15.59, didn't bet (folded)
jonm1842 balance $23.13, bet $10.59, collected $23.13, net +$12.54 [ Ad Ah ] [ two pairs, aces and tens -- Ad,Ah,Td,Th,9c ]
RichRose balance $21.42, lost $3 (folded)
joobjoobs balance $0, lost $10.19 [ Ks Kc ] [ two pairs, kings and tens -- Ks,Kc,Td,Th,9c ]

got lucky here
did the reraise represent aces?
could anyone lay this hand down after reraise?

***** Hand History for Game 2696518642 *****
0/0 Texas Hold'em Game Table (NL) - Sun Sep 11 23:08:13 EDT 2005
Table Table 36781 (6 max) (Real Money) -- Seat 1 is the button
Total number of players : 5
Seat 1: JW216318 ( $23.30)
Seat 2: KangoJack ( $25)
Seat 3: desarious ( $27.30)
Seat 4: peakmc ( $17.30)
Seat 5: joobjoobs ( $4.85)
KangoJack posts small blind (0.10)
desarious posts big blind (0.25)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to joobjoobs [ Ks, Kd ]
peakmc calls (0.25)
joobjoobs raises (1) to 1
JW216318 folds.
KangoJack folds.
desarious folds.
peakmc raises (4.75) to 5
joobjoobs calls (3.85)
joobjoobs is all-In.
Creating Main Pot with $9.55 with joobjoobs
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 3c, Th, Ts ]
** Dealing Turn ** : [ 3d ]
** Dealing River ** : [ Kc ]
** Summary **
Main Pot: $9.55 | Side Pot 1: $0.15 | Rake: $0.50
Board: [ 3c Th Ts 3d Kc ]
JW216318 balance $23.30, didn't bet (folded)
KangoJack balance $24.90, lost $0.10 (folded)
desarious balance $27.05, lost $0.25 (folded)
peakmc balance $12.45, bet $5, collected $0.15, lost -$4.85 [ As Ad ] [ two pairs, aces and tens -- As,Ad,Kc,Th,Ts ]
joobjoobs balance $9.55, bet $4.85, collected $9.55, net +$4.70 [ Ks Kd ] [ a full house, Kings full of tens -- Ks,Kd,Kc,Th,Ts ]

wow now thats lucky!!!!

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cowboyardee

09-12-2005, 05:21 AM

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Location: Pittsburgh, PA

Posts: 66

Seems you didn't really have a choice in either hand.
Hand #1: The pot was bigger than your stack, and you had every reason to think you're ahead, as the only hands that would play preflop and have you beat are AA, TT, and 99 (T9s maybe). Pretty good odds. If you had a much bigger stack, you might not want to push, but here you have to. What would you do if you checked and someone bet at it? If you bet $3 and got reraised? Fold? I wouldn't. With the pot that big already, a few lesser hands would call your bet, and if they fold, $9 ain't bad.
However, I might consider reraising preflop with two $3 bets on the table, maybe even pushing there.

Hand #2: Unless you have a read on peakmc as the grand high sheriff of Weaktightistan, you have to call here, too. Again, you have a small stack compared to the pot size. With pocket kings, your stack size, and a $1 bet on the table, the reraise is EXACTLY what you want to happen. They'll turn over queens, jacks, tens, Ax, or random junk way more often then aces.

Far as I can tell, you played fine.
Side note -- consider reloading or leaving when you're down that low at a table. Either the table has you beat (leave), you're on tilt (leave), or you've lost a couple hands to bad beats/inaccurate reads and it's only a matter of time before you hit a big one (reload). KK (or AA) can win you a lot of money, and it'll win you even more if you have a nice full stack.

PokerPatNEU

09-12-2005, 04:07 PM

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Full House

Join Date: Mar 2005

Posts: 797

Both hands are played fine.

drmcboy

09-12-2005, 07:57 PM

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DrButtInski
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Quote:

Unless you have a read on peakmc as the grand high sheriff of Weaktightistan

POTD, thanks for the laugh.

also I agree, don't play short stacked. But while you are SS, I think you push hand 1.

Miffed22001

09-13-2005, 01:53 PM

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If you dont lose your stack on both occasions i'd say you played it bad.
Oh you did :P then you played it gOOt imo
To be serious for a second, id make these plays too although im suspicious of the 1st hand, id let him lead out the betting here rather than pushing first and then id probably just push over the top anyway.

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