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Old 01-17-2007, 11:49 PM     Post subject: Am I losing value here? #1 (permalink)  
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GAME #474661314: Texas Hold'em NL $1/$2 2007-01-17 18:41:25
Table Sharona (6 max)
Seat 1: blackie2 ($195.00 in chips)
Seat 3: gazathompson ($48.24 in chips)
Seat 5: JL37 ($201.40 in chips)
Seat 6: amanda1926 ($276.13 in chips)
Seat 8: dalord999 ($342.15 in chips)
Seat 10: Mizuno ($111.98 in chips) DEALER
blackie2: Post SB $1.00
gazathompson: Post BB $2.00
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to JL37 A K
JL37: Raise $7.00
amanda1926: Fold
dalord999: Fold
Mizuno: Fold
blackie2: Call $6.00
gazathompson: Fold
*** FLOP *** K 5 7
blackie2: Check
JL37: Bet $14.00
blackie2: Raise $28.00
JL37: Call $14.00
*** TURN *** 2
blackie2: Bet $20.00
JL37: Call $20.00
*** RIVER *** J
blackie2: Bet $20.00
JL37: Raise here ever??
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Old 01-18-2007, 01:15 AM #2 (permalink)  
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KJ got there. You're beating KQ and KT. Although at a 42% VP$IP he could be a lot further down the food chain of Kx.

$80 flat for value seems reasonable, although it really depends on how you think he would play a better hand as his line is repping a hand you beat or chop. I've been shown sets and such in spots like this.
 
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Old 01-18-2007, 01:42 AM #3 (permalink)  
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KJ got there. You're beating KQ and KT. Although at a 42% VP$IP he could be a lot further down the food chain of Kx.

$80 flat for value seems reasonable, although it really depends on how you think he would play a better hand as his line is repping a hand you beat or chop. I've been shown sets and such in spots like this.
A set here would make me laugh out loud.
So you believe raising here is definitely worth it?
Now that I think of it, the way he played the hand it seems that at worst I am splitting.

...and you are very correct about him possibly holding Kx...he turned over K6 or K4...can't remember exactly...
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Yeah he's trying to freeze you and/or induce something like QQ/JJ to look him up. Heck, he's probably not even thinking about your cards and just playing his hand.

With the right read, I take guys like this to the cleaners.
 
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Old 01-18-2007, 03:00 AM #5 (permalink)  
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I told Lyric about a similar hand I had a month ago and he said you shouldn't throw in a raise anywhere.
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i would push turn for value
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Old 01-18-2007, 05:59 AM #7 (permalink)  
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i would push turn for value
seriously?
wow...I don't think I have the balls to do that...lol
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Old 01-18-2007, 06:37 PM #8 (permalink)  
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i would push turn for value
Can you elaborate Gabe? I find I'm pretty uncomfortable in these spots.


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