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Old 12-19-2007, 10:31 PM     Post subject: All streets in question #1 (permalink)  
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 all players in this hand are loosish TAGGs... actually the villain is 19/15/3, capable of bluffing (never seen him do anything too ridiculous). He's also seen me make a big bluff. My guess at his leading range 77-JJ, KQ-Q8 (although he may squeeze KQ), 44, 66, FD's, a few straight draws... so yeah kinda wide but that's just my opinion. His name is plzfoldxox or something like that.

I think pretty much all streets could be played differently... what do you think?

Oh yeah on the river he insta insta insta shoves

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Button ($406)
Hero ($469)
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Preflop: Hero is SB with Q, 9.
2 folds, CO raises to $9, Button calls $9, Hero calls $7, BB calls $5.

Flop: ($36) 4, Q, 6 (4 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $27, CO folds, Button calls $27, Hero calls $27.

Turn: ($117) 4 (3 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $65, Button folds, Hero calls $65.

River: ($247) 9 (2 players)
Hero bets $180, BB raises to $395 (All-In), Hero folds.

Final Pot: $392
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Old 12-19-2007, 10:37 PM #2 (permalink)  
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id play every street differently starting with preflop
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Old 12-19-2007, 10:41 PM #3 (permalink)  
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I actually think pf is a bit loose here, I feel you're gonna be setting yourself up for difficult spots later on.

I don't think he's going to get leading draws or mid pairs into this field much tbh, especially with the CO (who obviously sucks) in so I'm weighting his range more towards TP+ type hands. Most of these beat you and so I presonally wouldn't object to a fold.

Turn is an easy fold because I think you're outkicked a lot.

River I like because you want to valuetown better pairs and his shove is basically always a set so I like the fold.
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Old 12-20-2007, 12:13 AM #4 (permalink)  
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i would check/call this river and its not close, specially considering his betsizing on turn
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Old 12-20-2007, 12:29 AM #5 (permalink)  
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i would check/call this river and its not close, specially considering his betsizing on turn
Is this because it looks like he's enticing us to push?

Also I agree with Irish that he's probably not going to be leading a draw into this many people.


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Old 12-20-2007, 01:12 AM #6 (permalink)  
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no, its because he gives us odds to call with big draws and maybe even weaker ones so he should put them in our range when we c/c turn. he is either doing this thru a betsizing error, has a draw himself, or has a boat/quads and is doing it to entice us into the pot so he can get out stack when we fill. i think we should fold turn, but given we called...

on the river when we check he is almost obligated to bluff his very weakest missed draws, and will probably value bet hands like KQ and AQ and maaaybe QJ. If he was on a stone-bluff he is also obligated to fire another barrel with a high frequency. if he has the nuts we lose less money.

I would also bet/fold flop and fold preflop as ive already said.
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god and your overcall on the flop is REALLY gross
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Old 12-20-2007, 02:04 AM #8 (permalink)  
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 nice posts sauce i pretty much agree with you on everything.

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Old 12-20-2007, 06:41 AM #9 (permalink)  
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 i would insta-insta-insta call

edit : including river c/c... board kinda forces me to pay off a set.
when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?
 
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