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Genitruc

01-14-2008, 08:19 PM Post subject: All in, no pair, no draw?

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Villain here is a very aggro tagg who almost only reraises preflop, running at 22/20 over a few hundred hands.

This happened really quickly in the flow of the game so I’m curious how terrible, good or meh it appears to everybody.

FWIW I’m pretty confident villain’s range doesn’t include 99+ and big broadways. Also it’s very tough for him to have a pair with his flushdraw for obvious reasons.

$400 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Monday, January 14, 15:38:18 ET 2008
Table Table 134116 (Real Money)
Seat 1 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 2: erwtje111 ( $210 USD )
Seat 4: Neil_Trahey ( $503 USD )
Seat 5: HERO ( $581.30 USD )
Seat 1: Troublebox ( $640.30 USD )
Seat 3: sfaraha ( $121.77 USD )
Seat 6: xBORMANx ( $74 USD )
erwtje111 posts small blind [$2 USD].
sfaraha posts big blind [$4 USD].

** Dealing down cards **

Dealt to HERO

Neil_Trahey folds.
HERO raises [$14 USD]
xBORMANx folds.
Troublebox calls [$14 USD]
erwtje111 folds.
sfaraha folds.

** Dealing Flop **

HERO bets [$24 USD]
Troublebox raises [$68 USD]
HERO is all-In. (500ish to call into 640$)

when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?

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Da GOAT

01-15-2008, 08:54 AM

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why shove as opposed to reraise/fold to shove??

wud a reraise not have the same effect of folding out his 66-88 type holdings?

Jman: every time the action is to you, it's an opportunity for you to make the perfect play.

bigslikk

01-15-2008, 02:52 PM

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So he doubted your rep'd AT / overpair did he? What'd he call down with, sixes or a set?

I'll just reiterate what Da GOAT said, and what Eric Lindgren said in one of his recent books:

Avoid going all-in if you can help it (use it as a last resort).

Silly String

01-15-2008, 03:23 PM

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Sklansky has said too, that the impending threat of an all-in on a later street is usually scarier than having to call an all-in.

Playing live . . . thanks alot Bin Laden.

Genitruc

01-15-2008, 04:36 PM

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I think the reason for going all in vs 3-betting is that I am pretty sure he'll shove his draws like

etc that have good equity on the flop but won't feel very good about calling a shove getting a bad price

when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?

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