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Old 08-12-2006, 09:56 PM     Post subject: AKs line #1 (permalink)  
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Villian seems like he knows what he is doing, got almost 1k hands on him running 22/14. If it matters about 30 mins ago he raised on the button I reraised in the SB he called I cbet and he minraised and I folded.

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MP ($453.86)
Button ($233.25)
Hero ($524.90)
BB ($696.72)
UTG ($466)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A, K. Hero posts a blind of $2.
1 fold, MP raises to $15, 1 fold, Hero (poster) raises to $48, 1 fold, MP calls $35.

Flop: ($104) 7, T, 5 (2 players)
Hero bets $75, MP calls $75.

Turn: ($254) A (2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $100, Hero ...
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Old 08-12-2006, 10:24 PM #2 (permalink)  
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Lead turn, as played I would push.
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Old 08-12-2006, 10:27 PM #3 (permalink)  
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check push the turn

why lead aislephive? (not a rhetorical question, I am curious what your reasoning is)
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Old 08-12-2006, 10:35 PM #4 (permalink)  
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check push the turn

why lead aislephive? (not a rhetorical question, I am curious what your reasoning is)
I would lead for a few reasons, particularly against tricky opposition. One, it looks like we're bluffing when we lead the ace turn. He knows that we have AK/AQ or a very weak hand, and it might induce a bluff raise. Is JJ/QQ/KK ever leading this turn? I doubt it. We recently were caught making a bit of a steal move from him, so he might be suspicious. I also like leading from a value perspective. A check-raise all in is actually a fine play, and in fact I take back my original post and think a c/r ai is the better play, but I think leading is good too for the reasons above.
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Old 08-12-2006, 10:39 PM #5 (permalink)  
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i think both plays are equally transparent, but the c/r seems to extract more ev
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Old 08-12-2006, 11:44 PM #6 (permalink)  
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Old 08-12-2006, 11:46 PM #7 (permalink)  
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check push the turn

why lead aislephive? (not a rhetorical question, I am curious what your reasoning is)
I would lead for a few reasons, particularly against tricky opposition. One, it looks like we're bluffing when we lead the ace turn. He knows that we have AK/AQ or a very weak hand, and it might induce a bluff raise. Is JJ/QQ/KK ever leading this turn? I doubt it. We recently were caught making a bit of a steal move from him, so he might be suspicious. I also like leading from a value perspective. A check-raise all in is actually a fine play, and in fact I take back my original post and think a c/r ai is the better play, but I think leading is good too for the reasons above.
I think most players at 400NL won't have the balls to look you up with JT here if you lead/push the turn, especially if there's been no real history. I know what you're trying to say, but I think you're assuming too much.
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Old 08-13-2006, 12:38 AM #8 (permalink)  
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so folding is bad?
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Old 08-13-2006, 12:44 AM #9 (permalink)  
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c/r all in.
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Old 08-13-2006, 02:09 AM #10 (permalink)  
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what hand does he have that bets this turn?
BR: $.1k
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Old 08-13-2006, 04:57 AM #11 (permalink)  
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what hand does he have that bets this turn?
by the fact that you posted this, TT.

But there are tons of crazy hands you'll see betting this turn.
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Old 08-13-2006, 06:11 AM #12 (permalink)  
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so folding is bad?
Folding here is absolutely terrible. When you 3-bet pf with AK you should be felting TPTK the vast majority of the time. The fact that you have the nut flush draw makes folding out of the question.
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Old 08-13-2006, 03:36 PM #13 (permalink)  
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i c/r ai and was called by 77. i guess i am second guessing myself because against this guy it seemed so obvious.
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